Disrespectfully - Hero or Enemy? | Episode 22

I need a shirt that just says, I saw this on TikTok. But a girl she was working in a restaurant she worked at a fine dining restaurant posted and was like, I'm sorry, I probably shouldn't be doing this. But look at what. Just came to my restaurant and she walked out and a guy was sitting there with a real doll having dinner, it might've been that guy.

Oh, I've seen this. And there was a clip of a guy who thought he was in a relationship with his car.

Yeah, and the way he'd like touch it, I was like to be caressed in that way.

I don't know, like, what kind of chemistry in your brain that you have that you can fall in love with inanimate objects and think that you have a relationship with them. Like, what wires get crossed up there, okay?

So like a sex doll to me is even. That's even slightly understandable, because it's like, made to look like a person and you can quite literally make love to it. Yeah, so I get where we're getting our wires crossed. But like a car like an F-150, you just want to stick it in the tailpipe, like, what is that about?

No, I don't understand that. Like I said, the sex doll thing could kind of get it, but no, not a car, not like a. People have also relationships with like collections of things, too.

Collections of what?

I don't know like they're like pottery collection, but like, you know, like things, they're things. It's more weird to in the strange addiction realm of things, when people are addicted to eating things.

What's the weirdest one you've seen?

Someone was eating literally like a mattress, they're eating like the innards of a furniture piece.

Maybe they heard you saying, I'd rather eat a couch, and then they're like, MM Challenge.

Accepted? Or when they eat like, soap, or, uh, I don't know styrofoam, I've seen styrofoam.

You know, they're just blocked up.

I mean, they're not regular, how do they pass that?

That's what I'm saying.

How does your body break that down? It does.

It don't.

It don't, girl, but I mean, but if they're eating it every single day, all of a sudden someone just has.

Like an Ikea set up in their belly, like one of the stage rooms. I think the weirdest one I've seen, which you could pass. But this, this is disgusting. So a woman that ate her husband's ashes, so that then falls into, that's cannibalism. But like, I don't know, man. I really miss Leo, but I've since I stopped sleeping with his ashes in my bed, that he's now in my closet. I don't go in there and like, have a snack at night.

What if you fell in love with somebody hard, hard, and you found out that they had a strange addiction?

But it would depend on what the addiction was, I guess.

It was strange, like they they ate, weird they chalk, or like they, they consumed things that they should not be consuming.

I don't want to say no to anything at this point in my life, but I feel like I'm. I'm like teflon of love or I can't imagine falling in love because I just I'm so like, checked out with dating.

It's a hypothetical.

Okay, let's say I could know the standards are high at this. I'm like, maybe when I was 20, I would have dealt with this when I was more damaged. That you're chalk eating, but I'm sorry sir, I don't. I have enough problems. I really don't want to deal with this.

I mean, I'm hoping that's something that you would uncover, like pretty soon into things. But like, let's say, they hit it pretty well. I don't know what would you do, I would peace out, yeah.

I imagine you're like, that happens, that scenario. And then when I found out, I think my reaction would be, well, this tracks. This wasn't going to go well, obviously, something's going to happen.

So that makes sense.

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I'm good.

I didn't either, and I've been sleeping better, but last night I had some tequilas out for Logan's B-day, so happy birthday Logan. So I definitely didn't sleep well because of it.

It was one of those things where we both had a problem, where we either can't fall asleep or we wake up too early. And by early, it's like 3.30 in the morning and then I cannot fall back asleep. So I just kind of lay there with my eyes closed, and then eventually just give up, I succumb to the morning.

Laszlo My cat has, up until this point, been pretty good about not getting up. She eats breakfast at 9, but right now, if I breathe too heavily before 9 a.m, so for instance, at 8 this morning, I really wanted to keep sleeping. I breathe. And she thought it was time.

She found your breath holes.

Yeah, she did, she found them. She's like, Oh good, let me just scooch in.

Scooch right here, I'm going to scooch right here.

So I'm rather tired as well, okay?

Well, do you know what I'm really horned up for? We're speaking of being horned up for like, but this is a totally normal thing. I posted, I posted on my story yesterday. New York Fire Department.

Is this a real? is this a real thing, or is this because, like, when you think about it? Remember the Sex in the City episode? When they see all the firefighters and they're like, Oh, yeah, they're not as hot as they're made out to be.

But, like, Did you see what I posted?

I did see what you posted.

That was real life.

I mean, we are going to New York in August.

Yeah, who is this man? It's going to be hot, hot, hot.

I saw a really hot police officer, but he was Italian, it was in Italy, there was like a bunch of hot.

Oh, I've seen that, too.

A bunch of hot cops walking around and I'm like, Oh my, got those? Yeah, what's happened over there?

I don't know, and it's not necessarily a uniform thing. It was like, a, you know, an objectively hot person. It was a, yeah, it was just a hot.

Do what you got to do. Do you feel like you have like a firehouse fantasy like Sam did, or is it just like this gaggle?

No, that's not something I'd ever consider. I don't know. So, you know, sometimes you just see something, you're like, Wow, this is really doing it for me right now.

I mean, I feel like I again, I'm like Teflon for everything at the moment. But I feel like I loved Sam's journey because I do feel like that's how it would go in real life. Like people who do think it's like a firehouse, it's like, No, that's just. They sit around and toot all day and eat ribs 100 percent.

How would it be? It would not be sexy at all. It'd just be like a bunch. It'd be like a frat house with a bunch of dudes. Just like watching TV with their hands down their pants.

Which is, unfortunately, what happened to our fair lady.

That's, yeah, that's what I mean. So no, I don't have that fantasy. I don't know if I have like, a particularly or particular fantasy.

But so you don't think it like the uniform contributed in any way? No?

I don't know, I don't think it was no, because he had, he was just wearing a t-shirt, and he had. We had the bottom part of it on.

Right, but it was still like, you know, the suspenders?

Yeah, Ok, yeah, there was that. No, he was.

Oh, no, someone's perspiring.

Yeah, no, hose me down, right?

Oh my goodness, we have to find, we have to go to New York and roam the streets lighting things on fire.

Until just myself. I don't think I would get in trouble if I lit myself on fire, but if I was lighting things on fire, then that's a whole nother story. Yeah, that's crime.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure both are.

Then the police and the fire department will come see there.

You might as well two birds, one stone. We don't have a lot of time, we're there for like, a week, we have to double down.

Send your finest men New York.

Who knows? Maybe also, like, we like trash on fire, then you have you have the trash guys. I bet they're fine too, get them all.

And then break a bone and then we get the EMTs out there. Mm hmm.

MM Hmm. Not compound fracture, though, because no one wants to see that just a little cute.

And then if I go to the hospital, maybe there'll be a hot doctor or a hot male nurse.

Anesthesiologist Oh, they have really stable lives.

They make, they make a lot of money.

They make a ton of money. And when went back when I used to was in surgery all the time, anesthesiologists always would say my job is really boring. Unless it isn't meaning. Like, for the most part, things go quite well, but if something goes bad, so like, they just have, like, pretty, pretty easy jobs.

They come in, they hook you up, they say, count to 10, but it's not even 10. It's like ten, nine, eight, so it's really like three seconds. And then they just like, have to, like, watch a monitor.

But like, I mean, absolutely, they're doctors.

There's pressure there, there's pressure, you're doctors. But I'm just saying, like, seems like relatively chill.

Okay, the people that we have that are regular listeners, I feel like, know this. But if you're new here, or maybe you need a reminder, a lot of what we say is heavily.

Baked in sarcasm.

Sarcastic, It's very sarcastic. We know you're a doctor. Relax. why don't you take some of your propothol and chill out?

We're not actually lighting things on fire. I'm not lighting things on fire. I don't think your job is easy. I could never do it. Just let's all laugh.

Here's one of my things I'm afraid of, because my first real surgery of my life was my nose job. And I'm so paranoid that it wouldn't, because, like, Ambien doesn't work for me. And I have a weird brain. And I was so scared that it wouldn't knock me out. So I remember trying as they were putting me to sleep.

To stay awake.

To see if it was actually going to, like, forcibly knock me out, and then it was like, close my eyes and open my eyes. And the surgery is over.

You're like, Did it? You're like, I knew it wouldn't work. They're like, Ma'am, you've been out for hours.

How many surgeries have you had, like, where you've gone under?

Just one when I had to have surgery on my jaw.

That's the only one where you've had to be put under. Were you scared of being put under? For some reason? I was really scared of not the surgery part, I was scared about the being put under.

I don't really remember, I just remember the surgeon I had was so nice and such a great person. That I felt like I was in the best care and the best hands possible. That I did not fear anything, I didn't worry about a damn thing.

And here you are.

And here I am to tell the tale.

Well, the other thing I was nervous about, besides which, again, this is like a movie-based fear. This does happen. There's like three components to anesthesia, and all these up-in-arms anesthesiologists can write in and correct me if I'm wrong, but a component can wear off.

So they have to monitor your brain activity.

Yeah, there's all these different components and so I was always really afraid of that stuff. But then also, as you know, I'm the most nauseous person alive and one of my kinks is Zofran.

I have some, do you?

I took my nieces when I was home because my sister said I could, because she had a stomach flu.

But she obviously doesn't need it. When I had my famous kidney infection recently, they gave it to me because they also gave me percocet or other painkillers. And they were like, sometimes I can make you nauseous if you take it, but I didn't need it, I don't get nauseous.

Great, I will take those. I need a dealer, I need a plug. whoever has a Zofran plug, let me know.

I will say, though, the one time the medication made me nauseous and I did get sick from it. So after when I had my accident and I had brain injury, whatever. And they were nervous about me having a seizure, they gave me anti-seizure medication. But my jaw was wired shut and it did make me nauseous. I had broken ribs and a wired mouth and I threw up so I couldn't open up my mouth and I had broken ribs.

New fear unlocked. No, I'm claustrophobic. Was it painful? In terms of like, because you're wired shut? If you try to jolt like, instinctually, you would imagine you'd like go like this, like, did that hurt?

It mostly hurt in the rib section because that's where, like the most like here. I couldn't move this part because it was clenched. My mouth was shut, but in the ribs, yeah.

How long were you wired shut for?

Like six weeks.

You're so skinny.

Girl, Yeah, I'm a little feather like I had. My leggings were like bagging on me. It was not good.

Were you getting a feeding tube or was it you just like, they stuck a straw back here with like.

No, I was, I had it. I was missing teeth here. Oh, perfect. So I had a little hole for a straw to just fit nicely. But I mean, everything had to be blended up.

You just shove it through a little tooth hole. Yeah, like a creepy door.

I remember I was telling my mom, I'm like, I want to. I'm like, I just so badly want like a cheeseburger. My mom's like, I can blend one up for you. I'm like, gross, yuck.

That is horrifying. Oh my God, I didn't realize it was six weeks.

And then when I got unhinged, I could only open my mouth, like at first, like a little bit. And I remember I was eating like penne pasta. And I was like, just kind of trying to cram noodles in my mouth and I could, like, barely chew it. And I had about four noodles. And I was like, so full because I wasn't used to having like solid foods that I got full like, instantly. I'm like, well, that's annoying because I wanted just so badly to, like, have, like a bowl of something I could just really eat. And I mean, it didn't take long for my stomach to go back to normal size.

I mean, we're like, going to just have to put trigger warnings on every episode for potential gross factor. But I need to know. Because morbid curiosity. When you puked, when we're wired shut and our ribs are broken, did you just have to, like, open your mouth and let it drain out? Like, how did that happen? How did it relieve itself?

I mean, I obviously didn't have like solid food in me, so it was mostly water and like liquid.

Silver lining, you're so optimistic. silver lining, look at you, you found one.

Yeah, no, there wasn't any.

It wasn't like beef Stroganoff, it was.

No, because I hadn't had any.

Thank God.

Food in me for days. At that point, you didn't have that dog in you. It was just fluids that I had in me. But yeah, no, it was just like.

Yeah, you're like, Yeah, I'll take a seizure, thanks.

I mean, I think they were like, OK, well, if at that point I was out of the hospital and I think I was doing OK. And you know, yeah, it was. It was a risk you have to take, but I was the bleeding had stopped my brain.

Another positive Ok, yeah, wow.

Anyway, well, we can talk about something more positive. I mean, we went to the desert over the weekend. I'd never been to Joshua Tree.

I had been, but not like that, like I stayed at an Airbnb once, we didn't like, go anywhere.

So OK, yeah, it was different, but we went and stayed in Pioneertown, which was such a funny little place. Like I. I'd seen like pictures of it, but I didn't really picture it to be such like a tiny like. I mean, it really, truly is just a one little strip of.

It's like three institutions, two restaurants and a bowling alley. Which also my kind of people whoever designed that town and like, they're like, what are we priorities?

Well, it was like a movie set, so like now, like the little like places for the movies. That are like, converted into like little tchotchke, or like little, kind of like. Souvenir type shops. There's like a little like, like a skincare, skincare shop, hats, yeah, like little little shops that you can, like, pop into.

When? Because we will need to tell this my great adventure of getting lost and how I found my way back. But so there are, it's, it's quite little, like these little signs, and it's you. When you go from the main road, there's just a bunch of dirt roads and they're kind of far back. Is where the houses are, so our Airbnb is on one of them.

We went and there was emo night at Pappy and Harriet's and it was such a fun time. Very different from the one in L..A. That's like a huge club, essentially, so this was just like a restaurant bar, essentially.

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Yeah, let's hear something.

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You can argue with me, but you don't know what I'm about to say because I'm actually not going to argue.

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Because you're young, that's why. So it has, like all these cups on it, there's a cup in the middle with a big cup of liquor. And then, like, beer is in all the other ones. And you put these balls in. It's very fast moving. My first round to play it, I went and hit my ball and I happened to land in the liquor cup. And I didn't realize it. And I just grabbed it because the game was going so fast.

So whatever cup you land in, you have to drink that.

Yeah.

We called that chandelier.

Well, and who knows, maybe that's the same game. Have you heard of Chandelier?

I haven't heard of Chandelier, but I've played Rage Cage.

Well, I, first of all, don't really drink vodka, but I throw it back because I'm expecting beer. And we had already been drinking a lot, so I wasn't really budgeting. And I was like, Oh, I'll have a beer or two. At the bar, I drink probably like two to three shots of Tito's, which is disgusting warm.

Well, yeah, because you guys ran ahead of us, you were just feeling rambunctious, adventurous. And me and Raleigh and Bailey hung back, and you guys turned ahead. And we call after you. We're like, wrong road, wrong road. Wait and your voice kind of carries, but also when you're out in the middle of nowhere, almost, you can't hear too much. I don't know, but you guys just kept on going.

I did not hear, apparently, I responded, I didn't hear it, I don't remember hearing it. So we go down this dirt path and we're listening to music on our phone and looking at the beautiful stars and chit-chatting. And then all of a sudden I'm like, I pause the music and I'm like, this isn't right. I look around and I'm like, I had been following Fleur. Was it right?

I mean, truthfully, it had been like maybe 10 minutes, but yeah.

It could have been worse, we could have been, like, backtracked the other way, like, we are lucky that we had turned out that way. But anyway, that was quite the adventure.

I know, but you walked in and the look on your face and the hair and everything. And you're like, I can't believe you. You're like, cool that you leave me to get murdered. I'm like, Leave you, you ran ahead of us.

We were all laughing, screaming, laughing.

Raleigh was curled in a ball, hysterically, laughing, crying. It was so fucking funny.

It was so funny because I was mad when we walked in and like, very, very at a 10.

But the thing is, you also weren't mad, because it turns out you were moon gazing and looking at the stars the whole time, so it turns out you weren't that upset.

We were laughing, it was so fucking funny. So anyway, all's well, that ends well. But it was a very colorful evening. Then I had to leave in the morning to go because it was Logan's birthday dinner.

After you left, we went back to Red Dog Saloon and had drinks with our friends and Wes and Allie and Andrea. And hung out there for quite some time. Then we hung out by the pool and just did the damn thing.

When we got there, it was kind of afternoon, was it hot?

Yeah, it was pretty warm, but not unbearable. I think it was probably maybe 80-something. Nothing crazy. It was a nice day.

I had a bad day, I got home and I was so tired, I napped for a little bit and then basically had to get up and get going. I was fighting for my life, but we went to dinner.

No, no, no.

Not able to do that. Also, it's gotten better. My pale pale arms. We're both pretty good about sunscreen, but I'm particularly crazy about it because of my chicken skin. I had a burn on this arm under my t-shirt.

How would you rate the Emo night compared to L.A. It's obvious you can't totally compare it, but did you have fun?

I had a ton of fun, I think I loved your set list. It was very fun. It was a really good one, but it's just so different of an experience.

As opposed to when it's at Avalon, there's people up on the stage with you and then everyone else is down below and the stage is so elevated and high. But the one at Pappy and Harry, everyone is on the stage with you, right next to you, which was kind of cool and fun. It was a really good time, I liked it.

I thought it was cool in general, the place was really cute. It's such a small venue, but it's very packed because of that, so it just has a different vibe. But again, I was at a 10. I haven't been at a 10 in a long time. So it was also just lots of bopping around and being a silly goose.

I just still can't believe it took you four hours to get home and then you nap.

Horrifying.

But you're a professional napper.

I am a professional napper, but I've been getting, what's the word when you get put on a performance plan at your job? Basically that I've had a few write-ups, basically. Oversleeping during nighttime activities.

Oh, I know, because Dana and I were going to our friend's birthday dinner last weekend. And I was supposed to go pick her up in an Uber and then go meet her at our friend's house. And I literally text her, I'm like, Okay, what's the address? where are we going? And she had just awoken from a nap.

And she had texted me several times and I had washed my hair that day. So I woke up. I have very textured and also my hair is super damaged right now. Like halfway down, so it's like this and I wake up looking like Mufasa.

No scar.

Yeah, more like, Yeah, and I have, because I have the thing also when I nap perpetually. That or the fish from Nemo, that's what I always remember. I send you that I have this always really hard line on one side of my face, so I look like a lunatic.

Standing above you.

Literally going, Are you coming? And I sat up and I was like, What? And she was like, we were supposed to leave 10 minutes ago, what are you doing? And I was like, Well, clearly I'm asleep, so I managed to not oversleep, but you're not as much of a sleeper.

Those aren't naps, those are like mini, actual sleepers.

REM cycles. I'm dead to the world.

That's a REM cycle.

My sleeping patterns are so weird that when I need it and I can take it, I just do.

Because I have to do full on disco naps, where I might not even actually get into a full sleep. It's like I might doze for maybe three minutes of the 20 minutes that I lay down. But what I have to do is I can't get in a bed, I have to sit on my couch.

You sleep in your coffin, what do you mean?

I have to keep. This is so weird. So I was explaining this to someone recently. I don't remember who it was, but they were, like, really creeped out by it because they're like, Okay, this is like grandpa behavior. But kind of. I have to keep my both feet like on the ground. And then I just sort of like, just like, what do you call it? Recline my I put both my feet on the ground and just recline my body enough into, like the corner of my couch. And then I put my hands on my chest.

What do you mean? That's how you nap. when you say you would like a nap, that's what you do.

Because it allows me enough time to get like, comfortable and relaxed enough that I can actually like, fall asleep for a minute. But I'm not like, too comfortable. Or it's like, getting in the bed and getting that like.

You can sleep in that position, you'll fall asleep.

Mm-hmm, that is insane. Just for enough for, like, the perfect amount of time when I just want to, like rest, because sometimes when I go in that bed.

Well.

See, it's like, too dangerous because then I don't want to get out. It's like I have a harder time falling asleep and then getting out of it.

And then you fall in the category of like the Victorian child with like. Have you seen those TikToks that are like, my boyfriend sleeps like a Victorian child and their like hands are like this and whatever? But that is such a grandpa thing, I don't know. Okay, Elmer Fudd, get it.

And then I have to put my phone, like, really close to me for an alarm. The feet on the ground are important, why, I don't know, just comfy.

I could never sleep that way in a hundred million years like I need to be. Why don't you try? It's not, I will try it.

To do with the seats, you know, I mean, if it was a couch, if you use, like the corner of the couch, you know.

Well, also, even when just enjoying a program, my feet haven't been on the floor, I think, since 1990.

Yeah.

You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah.

I have to do that. I don't know, I just that is so funny. I didn't know that about you, so when you tell me you're napping, that's what you mean.

I'm sitting on my couch in a reclined position, with my feet on the floor and my hands on my chest.

Kind of like a Fiona Apple song.

I really didn't, I thought.

I forgot my feet on the ground and I don't go to sleep to dream, that's literally you in that position.

That's me and Fiona.

Is that the Fiona Apple?

Mm-hmm. It's called the Fiona Apple. I told that to somebody else and they were so weirded out by it, so I guess it's weird.

It's just the weirdest thing I've ever heard, and we were just talking about someone eating someone's ashes.

So if someone finds this out about me, is this going to be like a red flag?

You're the strange addiction. The call is coming from inside the house. Katie Maloney.

Uh-uh, if you walked in and saw me sleeping like that, what would you do?

Walk right back out. No, you wouldn't say she wasn't there.

No, you'd be like.

That's adorable.

Obviously no, but I also fall asleep with my phone.

Okay, yeah, that every single time we are sleeping together in a bed, she falls asleep with phone in hand, mid-text, either on text, which could never be me. I would shut that shit down, like, get in my position.

Obviously, I'm not planning on falling asleep.

Well, that's what I mean.

Sleep sometimes sneaks up on you, which is so rare, that's crazy that you can do that.

But you do. All of a sudden, I'm like, Oh, that's, her brain is done. She's like, sometimes it'll be, she'll have like half a sentence in a text bar, and then it'll just be like, Blink, blink, blink, and I'm like.

Lights out.

Nobody's home.

Literally when someone says, like, Sorry, I fell asleep, and you're like, really in the middle of a conversation? Mhm, literally in the middle of a conversation, I will lights out.

But you're the exception in that scenario.

Not the rule. So if I say it, I mean it literally if I'm telling you, I fell asleep in the middle of a conversation.

Again, I think you're the exception, but that is true for me. All. I will nap on my couch because there is a difference between a couch nap and a bed nap. But sometimes I'm just like, you really need to sleep, so it's always going to be that lighter sleep on the couch.

But that's why you can't nap, like, that's, that's bedtime behavior.

You know what?

That's not nap time behavior. nap time is like, should be like 20 minutes tops.

Yeah, I like a nice hour, at least.

That turns into three.

And then it turns.

And then you're like, why don't I sleep all night long? because your circadian rhythm is like, we don't fucking know.

I never claimed to be a perfect person. Do you know what is one of the weirdest things about me right now?

What?

Speaking of all of this.

What?

I am obsessively listening to Matthew Perry's audiobook to fall asleep. It's become. His voice is very soothing to me. His story is very sad and so traumatic, and it's a great book. Highly recommend read it or listen to it.

And you're having nightmares, yeah.

And but it's his voice is so soothing. I'm like, try to put on these fairy smut shits that I've been trying to listen to and other things. It's just nothing's working.

Well, you were listening to some like Murder podcast the other day when you were napping. Someone went in to wake you, un-un-unasleep you and un-asleep you. And and it was like, and then her head was cut off.

That was MFM. Their voice is also soothing, but then also give me nightmares. So yeah, it's a problem, but yeah, that's an example. Yeah, Joshua Tree, you guys all stayed up and I was like, Good night and I.

No, this is before we went out, you were napping.

Yeah, that was, I'm saying, like, we had like a daytime thing and I was like, buh-bye, nap time anyway, I love a nap.

There is science behind it. Just being twenty minutes, though. Yes, I know.

Meaning what?

You're not gonna interrupt your circadian rhythm.

But what if you do, if it feels so good, I mean?

Do what makes you happy live, however you wanna live. I'm just saying like, this is why you probably have trouble sleeping through the night. I don't know why I have trouble sleeping through the night because I don't nap regularly. Probably because I don't like, expose myself to, you know, because you're supposed to, like, wake up and immediately expose yourself to sunlight, and I don't do that.

I keep that shit drawn. Oh my God, what can I tell you? Something that is titillating to me? What?

Why, like, what? Like one of those little ones that they control with a Nintendo 64?

Because memes were never better. So they are doing it, taking one for the team. Here's the thing. I think what they're saying is there's a lot of new safety precautions and whatever. But there are submersibles designed to be at that depth and handle that pressure, but they're much bigger and they're.

Is this like a hold my beer situation? like they're like, you didn't do it right? hold my beer? like, I don't know, I don't know, I feel like.

I mean, also what happened to those people was jokes aside, I mean, because I'm sorry the memes were like, really funny. But what happened to those people, they were, what happened to those people was. It's horrible, right? But like, So then why are you going to do that again? And also the people who died on the One the Ocean Gate last year.

From cameras.

Why don't you just watch it on your iPad?

That's what I mean, like, why do they want to go? Unless you can get out and walk around and touch stuff like, why do you? Why do you just want to go down there and look at it through a window? That, to me, it sounds so unexciting, right?

It's just to say that you did it, but like, maybe there's a reason it's really hard to get to, maybe you're not supposed to be doing that.

Leave it alone.

Maybe leave it alone.

The ocean's mad at us. Yeah, I just don't think you're supposed to be going down there, watch the movie, it's way better.

Also that.

It's got like the sexiest version of Leo ever.

Oh God, the Romeo and Juliet of that time.

It's got sex scenes, it's got, you know.

Which is the most important thing. Hello, the unsingable Molly Brown, the unsingable Molly Brown.

I mean, like, just watch the damn movie.

If you have both tapes, if you have a VHS at home, then you know you don't have to really commit to that. But okay, really quickly. Because I don't think when we were discussing all the like toxicity in these relationships that are portrayed. I feel like we didn't talk about Titanic. Because I was thinking about this the other day. This happened, that whole romance, little whirlwind, let's get off the boat together and start a new life. Was literally three days and she was 17. Pump the brakes. If she had a friend that she could text and was like, could tell about this, the friend would be like, girl.

No, she was also 70. She'd be gassing her up, She'd be like, Oh my God, I'm so jealous.

Oh, you know, you're so right. She'd be like, get off the boat, never speak to your family again, who cares?

Yeah, no, my favorite thing was they were like, So you mean to tell me that? This bitch? Went on to, like, have a full family, fall in love for the rest of her life, die and then go meet some dude in heaven that she knew for three days.

Like that, dick down must have been life-changing, life-changing. Maybe that's what caused the IT to fly into the iceberg, because it just rocked the ship. We don't know. To, like, change your life forever. To have sex with one time with someone. And like, he tells you that you're smart. And you could probably ride a horse straddling it with both legs.

No, we did talk about this because we said if they got off the boat together, that relationship would not have lasted.

Did we talk about the Cal of it all? This is so random. I saw something the other day saying they're like, getting older is realizing that Cal was the right decision. Cal was an abusive piece of shit.

He was not never the right decision, depends on what your goals are, but he never was he tried.

To shoot her.

He was so controlling. Are you kidding?

He loved her so much, he tried to shoot her. If that, I'm sorry. If that appeals to you, I need you to.

Seek a.

Lifeboat. And then he kidnapped a kid.

Just keeps getting worse. He kidnapped.

A fucking.

Kid to get on the.

Lifeboat.

No, I saw something else. They're like, Oh, we were supposed to know he was a bad guy because he hated Picasso.

This schmuck, he's like, he'll never.

Amount to anything. Do you have plans?

Tonight, no, maybe we should watch it well, because I watched it a few years ago and I promised myself I'd never watch it again because it's I watch it.

Pretty often.

No, because.

Is that weird? Yeah, is that a weird thing about me that, like, if I see Titanic is on, I put it on.

Not in the sense that you do that with certain movies, like you have a group of movies, and I understand it from that way. But it's such a heavy like as an adult, realizing that in real life, I've looked up what the moon was like the Night of the Titanic. Because once.

What the fuck?

That's not as weird as it sounds, because when that bitch snapped like a fucking kit kat, all the lights went out, there was no longer electricity. So that was happening to those people in the pitch.

Black So I.

Wanted to know, and I can't even remember what it said, how bright the moon was and the stars. They've had any light, but most of that was happening, it was in the dark. And by the way, I don't even like a cold plunge for two seconds when I'm. It's consensual.

Being.

Chocked into the god damn ocean at night when it's freezing and you're gonna die. It was a horrible way to die. It haunts me. But because I'm so weird, I have to expose myself to it and imagine their pain and cry about it. I don't know, I'm so weird like that.

Yeah.

So, anyway, I have trouble with it now as an.

Face Are there moons that are lighter than other moons? Well, if it's a full moon, it's gonna be, it's gonna light up the sky.

A crescent as compared to a fucking full bright.

Moon Yeah, perhaps was the sky clear, because that would also contribute.

I believe it was a clear sky, skies were clear, but the waning crescent moon was only 9 of the surface illuminated was not visible the night it had already set by 4.04pm. So these are conflicting. We'd have to do more research, and maybe this is why I don't remember.

I mean, I could still see pretty well well, and your eyes are better than mine.

That is true, but they're surgically enhanced.

Okay, fuck.

I don't know that, I just don't like that. The darkness in addition to the cold in addition to the imminent death, I don't know it, just it hit differently. As an adult, being like that was bad.

Yeah, so that's why you can't watch it.

Yeah, but I'm going to, we should.

Yeah, let's go through it again. Great film. I like when they go to the dance party and she like, You know?

The dead version or the live version?

The one where she joins Steerage and she's like, Oh, this is how he's, you want to go to a real party? And then she goes in boogies and she's like, Watch this, hold my beer, and then she, like, goes on her toes.

Do you know what?

She's.

I thought she fucking ate when I was little, I was like.

I know.

I'm going to go to a party someday and do that, I'm going to flex.

I was like, party trick. That's how it's done.

Like, bitch, you got on your toes for two seconds, relax, get big strong man, watch this, and I'm like, I'm.

Oh my God, she, like, goes on her tippy, tippy, tippy toes.

Yeah, it was weird, it was weird, but yeah, that's hello, that's the most fun, because you know, that is how it is. All those hoity, toity, uppity like people, those aren't our kind of people, our people. The Juggalos would be in steerage, so that's like, that's our type.

No, I obviously.

All these like young bride, child brides that hate their husbands, but they like.

Sit in the parlor and drink cognac and scotch and cigars, and.

And don't do a circle, Jerk, but you know, they want to.

They would never.

Allow themselves to, because it was 1912.

They want to touch dicks, for sure.

They want to kiss so bad.

That's why they.

Want to ruin everyone's lives? Just kiss.

Anyway, that was.

Cathartic feeling.

Between.

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For me, I would rather see them with my hero and I feel like I was the outlier with that. Because what did you say?

I feel like, at some point, I don't know, because, okay, on one hand, okay, they're with your nemesis, your enemy, and you're just like it would help me get the ick and like, get over them. Because I could, like, you know, resent them a little bit and make me feel like, well, I'm better than my enemy anyway. So I still win, I feel like I would win in that situation, but if they were with my hero, I would feel like jealous. I would have such a complex about it, being like, Okay, well, you're out of my league and I was never going to be good enough for you kind of thing. I would have such a complex about it, it would kill me more.

I think that it, it kind of does the opposite for me, because, okay, if my ex ended up with.

Let's say it's not your ex, let's say it's somebody that like you wanted to be with, someone that like you, like it just didn't work out with.

Or even even a big crush, whatever.

Yeah, they chose your enemy or your hero over you.

There's one person that I do hate, and it's because it's very few number that I'm thinking of in this scenario. And with her, if it was between her or Beyonce and that person that I liked, chose Beyonce and was with Beyonce, I'd be like, Oh, that makes sense. Well, yeah.

It's Beyonce.

That's Beyonce, but what would kill me about it is if it was this person. You hate that you, I mean, hate them for whatever reason, but then probably don't think they're like the hottest or coolest or whatever. And they, I wanted them to love me and they didn't because we weren't a fit or whatever. And I'm like, you want that trash panda?

But for me?

It's just more of a logic thing. So I'm like, Yeah, my hero's that. Okay, I get it, why you like that person, but this piece of shit that's here with No.

Okay, let's say, in your toxic brain, some guy does you dirty and you want to fuck him over. Are you gonna date his hero or his enemy? I'm gonna.

Date his dad.

Or his dad, But okay, let's leave the dad out, would you? What do you think would be more of a dick punch?

Honestly, when you say it that way, then, yeah, it probably would be his hero, probably would be his hero, but I don't know.

The opps is.

Also a good option. I don't know what would you think?

Well, depends. Okay, it depends on why their enemy.

I guess it would be dependent on what I think would bother him more.

I want to know what the history is there.

But yeah, also if it was his enemy, that could also, I don't know, I feel like that could fuck that person up too, so I don't know. Both good options if you really just want to spite someone, neither are great for the receiver of that.

When you turn it around and you're like, Okay, I want to spite this person, so how can I really hit him? Where? It's like, that perspective is totally different. Then, yeah, who?

Knows, maybe their hero is their dad. So two birds, one stone.

Oh yeah, dating the dad is always going to be the.

Great option.

Game over Mortal Kombat, Finish him.

Great option. I don't know. I think that's really interesting. I think that I hope I don't find myself in that situation. I want to be left alone to find my peace.

Okay, but like, let's say you were in a spiteful mood. would you choose to spite him?

God, it's really tough, but I don't know like initially I was thinking hero, but now I think enemies more spiteful, like someone that that person hates. Like, I get Raleigh's point about how it can make you get over it faster because you're like.

But I think if you if they hate them for like the right reasons, that like, would really get under their skin. Because, like, maybe it's somebody that they hate. Because they, you know, have a deep history of, you know thing in that sense. Not because they just think that that person's a scumbag, but they hate them for, like, really good reasons, you know?

It's a tough.

One or somebody that they've, like, admired for, like, their entire life.

Is that who you would choose?

Either one is a great option. They are both. How about both back to back?

Yeah, let's not, let's not leave polyamorous situations out of this. And like Pathropal, we all saw challengers.

Both at the same time.

Let them eiffel tower you just kidding.

Well, yeah, no, it's like, you know what? both? I don't. you know, I'm not gonna limit myself. Leah, What do?

You think?

Hero.

It would bother you more hero, or you think Hero's more spiteful.

I think Hero is more spiteful. Hmm, well, I think Hero would just bother them more.

Would it bother you more?

Probably you always want to, like, be doing better than your ex, so if they're dating your hero, it's like, Oh, fuck.

Yeah, kind of crazy. It's a zinger. What was this? Just an organic thing that popped in your head?

No, I forget we were talking about just like seeing your ex, like, move on and how it makes you feel, and just being over it. And she's like, Oh, no, it doesn't bother me anymore. And then it became a hypothetical of questions, you know? And I'm like, I don't know, so I'm like, Oh, they're dating, my whatever, I don't know. It was just a hypothetical that turned into a whole conversation of, like, Oh.

Well, I mean, it is good, it was a good one. It was like, Wow, that's a brain teaser.

Yeah, I sat on the first stage.

My brain.

It's a really, it's a, you know.

A litmus test.

Of sorts.

How low can you go? How low?

Can you go?

Okay, basement, who's in my?

Basement.

As now a owner of a food establishment that is open, I'm curious your feedback on this. I feel like I'm could get raked over the coals for this, but I think this is fucked up. So I went to Sweet Fin the other day. Which is, you don't live here and don't.

That is odd, especially because since you're right there, it would take no more than 5 minutes to quickly do that, considering that.

I was having such a craving I got in my car and drove there and I was like, Well, this is bullshit. Let me be clear, too. It's not the two workers fault like they were overwhelmed, it's whatever their policy is. That's not telling them like, Hey, if people come in, you should serve the customers that are here.

I get that they probably have a like guaranteed pick up time that'll be ready. But again, shit happens there too. Sometimes it takes a little longer. I don't know.

I don't know. I think it makes more sense to tell people who are coming to pick it up, sorry, we got slammed with a bunch of online orders than telling a person.

Who's standing?

Right there, hey, stand there for 30 minutes while we make everyone else's food. So, again, it's not the workers fault. Don't come for me, but Sweet Fin is in the basement this week. I really wanted that poke bowl and I didn't get it so.

Yeah, no, I think that's. I find that to be odd. That's my basement. What's your basement? I don't.

You want my second basement?

I really don't have one this week, it's been pretty.

Wow, that's new for you.

Love to see it. Is it new for me? I feel?

Like, we would be remiss not to talk about it. You and I both obviously have very strong feelings about Donald Trump and are very outspoken about that. We now have our first convicted felon ever in the history of the world, as a president, former president, and an actively running president.

I also saw this morning that he's likely not going to serve time. How is that possible to be convicted of how many? 34, 34?

Yeah, of course, he's not going to serve time, he's a white, rich man in America.

He's, Yeah, but I feel like I feel like they could do one thing, what put him?

In jail?

Don't let him run presidency.

So I would love it if the sentencing, the sentence was, Hey, you are not going to serve a day of jail time, but you will not be able to run. I hope in it's not just because of my feelings about Donald Trump, it's in general. I don't think it's fair that if you have an active criminal case or are a felon, when convicted felons in this country cannot even vote, you should not be able to run and hold office of the highest office.

In the most powerful country in the world, why can a convicted felon run for presidency? The math don't math there, my guy, it doesn't.

There's, it's unfortunate, there are so many things in our country that are backwards and bad policies. And just because it's always how things have been done, and it's, I'm sorry. You can say what you want.

Technically, he couldn't even vote, so how can he run?

Well, that's what they were saying something about that, about if he'll be able.

Simple Yeah, again, just take away who he is as a person. It's just that's crazy. Those are the breaks.

It's crazy, it's deeply upsetting. Yeah, 34 counts and he will. The one thing about this, because.

I.

Also, I mean, it's one quick note, too, because it does. It makes me really scared and sad, but the way that he I knew, obviously, he was going.

Is 100 percent.

Should we pick it back up and go?

Oh my god.

That is, first of all, a master class in a hometown hero. That is what we're looking for. That is, I'm so sorry that happened to you, Kimberly, but that is so funny and new fear unlocked. I was afraid of just a little sending it off. Having it on a giant TV in front of everyone, you know, and you couldn't find the remote, so you had to unplug the TV.

No, if I have any kind of spicy photo, they immediately get deleted after I do what I do with them. But I mean, I get embarrassed handing my phone off to somebody. Because there's maybe just some cringey selfies or something that I don't want to be for anyone else's eyes, I don't know. That is mortifying.

Mortifying, like my jaw dropped when I read that. Oh my god, I would throw my cat at the TV, like if you couldn't find the remote or anything.

Everyone close your eyes rear, look away, close your eyes.

That is crazy that everyone didn't just instinctually look, why are you all just sitting? It's like that Geico commercial, it's like all the bugs, and it gets like.

I'm so sorry that happened to you, Kimberly. Wow, you are, you're a hero anyway.

It's wackadoodle time.

Wackadoodle time It is a wackadoodle time. First of all, that man is unhinged and unwell. Just because she was dating more than one person, he couldn't handle that and called her stupid whore, and then, years later, had to tell her father that.

Well, that's the thing. It's like men date multiple people all the time. They're not stupid whores, but regardless if someone. It honestly reminds me of that guy who grabbed his toes once in the leather flip-flops. Who pulled up on that? Our first date pulled up texts from a girl and called her crazy from years prior, and I'm like, you need to move on.

Yeah, anyway, wow.

Both great stories.

People, I mean, I can, but it's like, people like this really exist, that's nuts anyway. Wwdd, wwdd.

Take a seat.

I mean, listen, I am 38, so around the same age and also like, kind of in the same phase of, like, starting over in a way. But and yeah, I was totally not expecting to wind up here. I didn't think at this age I would be single and all of that. But I think I had to sort of change the way I looked at things and my perspective on all of this. And once I was able to do that, I really, like, fully embraced it. And I'm like, really, kind of excited about it because I get to be in control of whatever that looks like. I can make my life whatever I want it to be. And it's a very exciting time. And I don't put a lot of pressure on dating and that makes it a lot more easy and approachable. And I can design my life however I want it to be. And I think, once you accept that, you know, yes, okay. Marriage and planning that future and kids is sort of not on the table right now. I know that can be hard if that's something that you really, really want, but sort of planning things for yourself and things that can excite you.

I think that sometimes it's overlooked when we are at a certain age and we feel like we didn't make certain benchmarks. That when we were little, we had fantasized or whatever. I think it's overlooked that sometimes maybe that's because you're being protected and you're headed towards something better. So it's like, right now, this part that feels difficult and isn't what you thought your life would look like at this age. Perhaps that you're just in the transition point and it's because you're going somewhere much better. And I think that when you're trying to change your mindset, that is a really helpful tool. And also, I don't think it's bullshit.

Replace expectations with standards and uphold those, do away with expectations altogether. And just have standards of things that you are going to just not accept and want to just always meet goals and standards.

And also, I'm not like, saying this to you to say like, it's you shouldn't feel bad, that's toxic positivity, right? Of course, it's totally okay to feel unsure or scared, or lost, but there is so much excitement in when you have an open ended story. Whereas before, if it was like, Okay, so what if you had married this person? There's also no guarantee it would have been a good marriage or the right marriage. Or brought you down whatever path. So I think that you should really try to reframe to how much excitement is ahead of you.

And I think the unknown is actually really exciting, it doesn't need to be daunting. I mean, like, well, I don't know what's going to happen. It's like anything can happen. That's what's exciting about the unknown, is like, rather than saying, I don't know what's going to happen.

I love it, so we're rooting for you Katie. Hell yeah, everything's going to turn out, Anonymous says. Huge fan of the pod and the both of you.

I mean, I think it's, I mean, it's like, personal for everyone. But I think people put a lot of emphasis on sex and people choose not to have sex or to have all the sex in the world for different, varying reasons. But I think, you know, if someone. If you're going to meet someone. And they're going to judge you for that reason of reasons that you chose not to, then they're probably not the person for you. Yeah, I don't think I don't think you're going to be aligned sexually for a lot of reasons. But I think, yeah, just being patient with yourself and understanding that, like, it's okay.

Take your time.

Trust yourself, trust your instincts, you'll be good. But yeah, and I echo everything else you said.

Yeah, also, I know you're a people pleaser and it's hard because we're we're different. So I'm coming at this. I'm, you know, my perspective, but like, I think it's pretty easy to lay out. Hey, we've been together for this eight long eight years, there's been a lot of good, but we went into this with commitment.

You have to be direct.

You have to be very direct and just say, This is where I'm at. If you want to cater more to his feelings, explain how much you love him and everything that has meant a lot to you about your relationship. But here's where the turning point has been. And I'm no longer able to continue this relationship because if I do, it's putting myself on the back burner and I'm not able to do that.

Yeah, and just say, although, like, I've forgiven you, I have not been able to move past it. It's my, you know, it's I just can't, and that's totally fair, and that's fair.

Get rid of him.

Sugarcoat it. Yeah, I mean, he's. He obviously doesn't really care about how he's hurting you, so I wouldn't really be concerned with how you're hurting him, sorry.

Sorry, not sorry.

Good luck.

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