Dr. Ben Carson: The Left’s Cringing Worship of Kamala Harris

What do you think of Kamala Harris I?

I Think she believes in government, like most Marxist. Yes. I think she is a Marxist. Do you think that she can win? Absolutely, she can win.

this is this is going to be a great test of the power of the media to take someone Who formerly was universally disliked and Transformed them into a godlike figure, and they will use everything that they have to try to do that. the question is Are the American people smart enough to see through it? and I actually think the American people are smarter than anybody gives them credit for, and I don't think that they are going to be willing to Sacrifice what we have in this country, Which is what everybody else wants, even though they try to denigrate our country, say we're systemically racist, We're unfair to people. if we were all that bad, Why are all these people trying to get in here and why aren't people trying to get out of here? So we know that we have something that's very good And I think the American people realize that and they're not willing to give that up and trade that for something Inferior.

They all go. you say how in the world are they doing that? almost have this cohesive communication and?

They work together. I accused one of the media of that About a week ago and they said how can you say that about us? Then I started talking about how they use the same language Within minutes of the time that something comes up. Is it just a coincidence that they use the same language and the same phrases? They had to admit that there probably was some degree of cooperative.

Work going on there.

They said you can't have a nation That's run on the will of the people. you have to have a monarch. You have to have a ruling body.

But we have demonstrated for a very long time that we can Run on the will of the people, but that is being distorted significantly because the press Has, instead of deciding to disseminate unbiased information, They have decided to put their thumb on the scale and to push a certain agenda, Which, when you think about it, makes little sense, Because the agenda that they're pushing is more of a socialist, Marxist agenda. Well, what does socialist and Marxist do when they get in power? they control the media. It's almost the first thing that they do. Yes, so they're digging their own grave.

Because somehow they think that that helps and it does help for some people.

Wouldn't it be amazing if we could actually discuss the issues? yes, What are the policies that actually impact people's lives? if we could spend nearly As much time on that as we do, talking about each other and integrating each other, I think we could make some real progress and I think we might actually find That there's more agreement than you think there is. I'd say, 80% of issues your most radical left-wing and right-wing people would probably agree on, but we take that 10 to 20% And we magnify it and we make it the biggest issue, To the point that people hate each other.

as the DA, She was the one who Basically didn't want to punish people who were guilty of horrendous crimes and repeat offenders, and she wanted open borders and all the things that we see happening. you can put those on steroids if she becomes the president, and I hope people will go back and look at her record. Don't just listen to pleasant words That will be interspersed with ridiculous laughter, But go back and actually look at what she, what she did and what she has said, and I think People will remember why she got no traction at all.

How did, how did that happen in a country that's supposed to be run by its people? that's a.

Then we end up with somebody.

Who, on their own merits, would never have been in that position.

That's a real problem and There are consequences for doing things like that. You know the reason that our country Accelerated from a bunch of ragtag militiamen to the pinnacle of the world's because we had a process And it worked well, and it reflected the will of the people. when you throw that out, you can't anticipate that things will continue to go smoothly. they won't, and you know, we've just thrown a big kink in the whole thing and.

Hopefully the American people will correct it, you know, I think our founders were very, very smart people and they studied every Single governmental system that had ever existed in the history of the world, and they were eclectics. They extracted the good things and they excluded the bad things. But one of the things that they noticed when they studied all of these governments is that all governments move in the same direction, Regardless of how they start, regardless of how lofty their ideals are. They grow, They infiltrate and they dominate, and they wanted to give us a government that wouldn't do that with. that would leave the people free and in charge, and that's why they work so hard and, as you, as you know, it was Very raucous and there were a lot of different opinions about how to do that.

And in the last.

Convention in Philadelphia, Constitutional Convention. the whole thing was about to dissolve. Everybody go their separate ways, and the elder statesman, Benjamin Franklin, 81 years old, said stop, gentlemen, let's get down on our knees and let's ask God for wisdom. and they prayed and they got up and they Resolved their differences and gave us the Constitution, which I believe is a God inspired document, but if we neglect it, If we don't adhere to it, Then we will suffer the consequences. and that's what the battle is right now.

The battle that's going on in this election It's not about Democrats and Republicans. It's about people who want a country that is up for and by the people, And people who want a government that is up for and by the government. That's what this is about.

It is tempting, but, you know, much more tempting to me is Is Trying to make sure that we show the contrast between those two systems, because they are very different. You know, one of them Will create a situation where the workers? control their own lives, control their own budgets, and One of them is a situation where you turn everything over to the government, including your hard-earned wages, Yes, and they decide what to do with them.

Do you know Kamala Harris? No, I've never met her.

We were just enjoying each other's company And someone says Rod Stewart just came in. He said I don't care. This is Ben Carson. I knew what kind of person he was at that point and you know, my, my whole family was with me, my mother, and you know, it was a Easter program, and He just made sure that we were comfortable and that we were taking care of him. Especially wanted to make sure my mother was comfortable and there were all kind of celebrities and important people walking around and he was just trying to make sure that we were comfortable.

and That's the kind of person he is. I noticed, you know the the workers, The people who serve the mills, the people who parked the cars. He knows those people. He knows their names. He knows their families.

the same thing at Trump Towers When I went there.

And he seems to be a genuinely caring person. It didn't take long before he you know, he knew my family knew their names. He's just that kind of person, as opposed to the very superficial politicians who are always playing to the cameras, and I couldn't care less about you once you got out of the camera range. You've seen that too. Oh, I've seen that many times.

You know, I I ran because there was so much insistence that I run after I gave the presidential.

Keynote for the presidential prayer breakfast and I had over 500,000 petitions in my office or people every place. I went, with signs run, been run, and.

You know, I really didn't want to do it, but There was just so much pressure. I just said to the Lord if you really want me to do this, You got to give me all the stuff. a person who runs for president has a Rolodex with all the important names, a lot of money, an Organization, and I said I don't have any of those things, nor do I attend it when to develop them. The next thing I knew they were all there and our organization was raising more money in a month than the RNC. It was incredible.

But during the campaign, you know, we talked and I told him That God chose him, that he was gonna win, you know, there were a whole bunch of us running. I said you're gonna win because God is going to use you to help save our country and.

That I would say that, and he reminds me of that very frequently And I think he's really thinking about it since the assassination attempt.

Recognizing that he's there for a specific reason, and.

You know, I had a hard time when I dropped out.

Convincing my followers to go with him. I got a lot of calls, particularly from evangelical leaders, you know, and I just said

I said you're not going to be successful in that market unless you're very tough and.

That means you may have some rough edges, And we just have to recognize that and be able to move beyond that and see that this is a man. whose policies Do you agree with those policies or do you not? and several of the leaders then came and Started thinking in a different way, and we had a big evangelical rally. You know, At first it was going to be like 50 pastors, It ended up being 2,000, and at that time, I think he realized that, Boy, this is an incredible Block of people that we need to be working with.

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It's America on trial with Josh hammer.

So then you went to work in the administration.

We got rid of over 2,000 regulations. that had regulations and sub regulations, which made it much easier to get things done. and Of course we had a situation. you always heard the stories about the malfeasance, the fiscal problems going on at HUD. You probably noticed.

a year and a half into the Trump administration. You never heard those stories anymore, Because we were able with.

much cajoling and arm-twisting To get one of the former senior partners at Ernst & Young to come on and.

Really to take on the whole HUD Organization, Which was difficult. He said in the beginning. He said he looked at the books and he said Ernst & Young would never have taken you guys as a client. No,

I am fully dedicated to helping to save our country and you know, there are a variety of ways that that can be done and I Will be following the guidance from the good Lord in terms of which is the best way to do that.

They just want a level playing field, Something that works for everybody, and I think that's one of the reasons that that Trump is attracting so much attention.

but I Just don't think that that's going to work in this particular case, not to mention the fact that In the past at least, she has not been an inspirational.

individual, and You know, her speeches have certainly not been the kind that would have people fired up and Saying yes, we will, we will go to the end of the earth for this woman.

So I hope she has some really good speech writers.

You know, you've kind of proven that the democracy is fake, I think.

There's no question. there is a machine and There is a mechanism for doing things. So you saw how effective it was in Pennsylvania for Federman, at a time when, Before he recovered from his stroke, he was a basket case. He couldn't talk, and yet he was still able to be elected over someone who was very articulate and very logical, dr. Oz.

So it's. no one should underestimate the Impact of that machine and what it can do. I.

Which tells you that it's real.

But are you concerned that letting in tens of millions of people illegally?

I remember one person who worked with me Said I went in there and they tell me and she said do you want to see my ID? and they said no, We don't need to see your ID.

It's just a matter of how great that impact will be. and as time goes on and You get more representatives, Lean left, then you get legislation passed that becomes very friendly to people who've entered this country illegally, and You can profoundly change it to a point where we'll never Move in a different direction.

and You look at those 45 goals. It was things like gaining control of the public school system and the teacher unions So that you can indoctrinate the kids, gaining control the news media and Hollywood so that you can manipulate the opinions of people, denigrating the role of the family, Denigrating the role of the church, getting into the churches and changing the real gospel to the social gospel Making sexual perversion normal, natural and healthy. I mean, just right down the line, all the things and the things that are happening in our society right now, and we, the American people, are the pawns who are being manipulated, and it's one of the reasons that Khrushchev was so confident when he talked to Eisenhower and said that your grandchildren's children will live under our system. We won't have to fight a war Because we think we won the Cold War, But they had a much Better plan On how to actually change us, and we're falling for it. And we, the American people, have got to wake up Before it's too late, and we've got to understand that part of the goal To overcome us is to divide us on the basis of race, age, income, gender, political affiliation, Religion.

Yeah, because a house divided against itself cannot stand. Jesus said it, Abraham Lincoln reiterated it, and It's absolutely true. and you look and you see what's happening to our society. You know, we are neighbors and friends, and co-workers and colleagues. We are not enemies, And look at the first letter of each of those words.

We are not enemies, w-a-n-e Wayne. We've allowed hatred and division to wax for a long time. now It's time to let it wane and come together. Once again, it's okay to disagree about things. It doesn't make someone your enemy just because they have a different yard sign or a different opinion.

it doesn't change the fact that that's your neighbor. and You think about the early days in our country when you had communities, sometimes of 50 or 100 families. They came from different areas of the world. in many cases. They could barely talk to each other because they spoke different languages, but they understood a concept Called the common good.

That's language that you see and much of the writings of our founders the common good. What's good for all of us? Not what's good for the Polish section or the German section or the? African section, but what's good for everybody? and That was one of the things that made the difference, you know, if it was harvest time and mr Johnson broke his leg.

Everybody else harvested his crops. They didn't say are you a Democrat or a Republican? What's your religion? No, they said you're my neighbor and you need help. That was one of the real strengths of our nation, and we're allowing that to be destroyed.

We're being manipulated, and one of the reasons I believe that that's happening Is because we are the major obstacle to one world government and one world Domination, but we cannot be overcome militarily. So you have to overcome us by destroying us from within.

There. that doesn't seem to be a common view in the way that it was even 20 years ago. and At the same time, the US government seems openly hostile to Christianity, particularly the Biden Harris administration, replacing Easter with Trans Visibility Day, etc. putting People in prison for praying and abortion clinics, etc, etc. Do you notice this, this hostility toward?

Oh, without question, but.

You saw all of the protests that occurred recently, when the governor of Louisiana said we're going to have the Ten Commandments in the schools, and the governor of Oklahoma and the legislature Said we're going to teach Bible and the Ten Commandments. Oh, no. No, you can't do that. This is horrible.

Separation of church and state, you know, the Constitution says nothing about separation of church and state. by the way, That's been distorted tremendously.

but I Like to ask these people Exactly. Why don't you want the Ten Commandments to be taught? What is wrong with thou shalt not kill? What's wrong with thou shalt not steal? Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Thou shalt not lie. Thou shalt not envy. Honor your parents? What's wrong with those things? and of course, they never have a good answer for what's wrong with them, because there is nothing that's wrong with them.

and You know, these are basic principles of civilization. and you can go to the deepest, darkest jungle of Borneo. and If you find a thief, what does he do? he waits until nighttime when nobody can see him, and he goes and still. why did He do that?

because he knows that's wrong. There is such a thing as right and wrong, and there's nothing wrong with us teaching that to our children.

I.

We have people who are afraid. They're afraid to express their ideals because of the punishment, because of Cancellation, because somebody might call them a bad name, because somebody might make life difficult for their family. but what we have to recognize is, When you stand up for what you believe in, you give license and encouragement for others to do the same thing, and.

Remember, you cannot be the land of the free If you're not the home of the brave.

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And obviously it was not to look for the approval and adulation Mankind. It was to fulfill your duty to God and bring praise and honor and glory to his name. So it never really bothered me, particularly when a lot of the mainstream said he's a horrible person and.

Never mind the fact that he saved thousands of lives and came up with all kinds of new ways to do wonderful things. He's a horrible person because Whatever they believe is not what he believes. And the good thing is that I don't Encounter a lot of people who feel that way. You know when I go to the airport, you know, when I came in here yesterday And I went to the airport. I had a line of people waiting to take pictures With me and to shake my hand and to thank me, And that's what I find, you know, just about every place I go, so that the mainstream media, You know, they do their best to demonize anybody who doesn't agree with them, But I don't think they're as effective as they think they are.

I think that's exactly right.

You two would just be magic caught together. And finally we did get together. it was interesting because.

The university was trying to get some more diversity, and So they would pay your way home for Thanksgiving if you would recruit for them in the Detroit public school system, and So the two of us agreed to go back and recruit.

And You know, during that recruiting period we discovered we we kind of liked each other.

We're actually driving back to New Haven from Ann Arbor And we were going to drive all night to get back in time the next day And we both fell asleep on Interstate 80, going 90 miles an hour Awakened by the vibration of the car as it was going off the road, and I grabbed the wheel and turned and the car just started spinning instead of flipping over and going down the ravine. It just started spinning And it stopped pointing in the right direction Just in time for me to pull off as an 18-wheeler came through. Of course. We were quite awake at that point and we just Knelt and prayed, and we thank God for saving our lives. and that's the night.

We started going together and we said the Lord saved our lives for a reason.

Amazing yeah, and that was on the 28th of November 1972, and we celebrate the 28th of each month. We call it our month of our tree.

So the boys became very familiar with, with the Bible and its interpretation and talking about it, and we, of course, went to church every week and And Continued to make God and a very important part of our lives. In fact, one of my, one of my boys, is married to. his wife is a minister.

Really yeah.

Shifted from home to home, never had a place to really call home, Got less than a third grade education in order to escape dire poverty. She got married at age 13 and she and my Father moved to Detroit. He was a part-time minister and A factory worker. She subsequently, some years later, discovered he was also a bigamist and another family, and of course that resulted in a divorce, and She had raised us by herself. How old were you?

and your parents split up? I was eight years old. Oh, And it was devastating to me. I just Prayed every night that the Lord would help my parents to get back together, But it never happened. later on I realized why, because you know, my father was into.

Gambling and Drugs and women. Women are okay, but you only need one Best best to limit yourself to one, that that probably would not have been a good influence on me. So it actually turned out well, but my mother had to work very hard to keep a roof over our head And she worked as a domestic, but she was also a spy and She said I clean these beautiful homes in these beautiful neighborhoods. I'm gonna spy on them and see how come they're so successful. and She concluded that they were so successful because they didn't watch a lot of TV and they read a lot of books.

Wanted me to read up from slavery. Yeah, I booger T. Washington the whole ideal self-sufficiency. And As I started reading books about people of great accomplishment, surgeons and explorers, and inventors and entrepreneurs, and I Began to realize that the person who had the most to do with with you and your success was you. it wasn't somebody else, It wasn't some circumstance.

I stopped listening to all the negative people who are saying you can't do this, You can't do that, society is stacked against you. I just threw all that stuff in the garbage and.

I got to the point where, if I had five minutes, I was reading a book and In the space of a year and a half. I went from the bottom of the class to the top of the class and.

It had a profound effect on everything I did. but the other thing about my mother is As difficult a life as she had. she never allowed herself to be a victim and She never made excuses, and that was a good thing. Problem was, she never accepted excuses from us either. So if you Became self-pitying or blame someone else.

What did she say? The next thing out of her mouth was a poem called yourself to blame. You're the captain of your ship, you know goes through several different verses. She knew the whole thing by heart, and We don't want to hear that point. So we stopped making excuses.

When she was making us read books and submit to her written book reports, Which she couldn't read, but we didn't know that she would put little marks and things on checks and act like she was reading. We didn't know she couldn't read.

But she did eventually teach herself to read, got a GED, went to college and in 1994 got an honorary doctorate degree. and So she was dr. Carson, too.

And I didn't have any, any hard feelings toward him, I.

Was at that time understanding why he left the picture and That it was probably a good thing rather than a bad thing, but of course I.

Overcoming our cultural war against the American family.

Because If you look at the think tanks, the liberal think tanks and the conservative think tanks and all the study groups, They all agree that children raised in a traditional Nuclear family do much better on all parameters than those who are not. And yet we find ourselves Not really pushing the traditional nuclear family. you turn on a television series. you know, within five minutes you get introduced to a non-traditional family, and Not only as acceptable, but as the preferred thing. and There is a real war on traditional families.

There's a real war in terms of children and the formation of families. the average Birth per woman now is down to 1.6.. You need 2.1 just to maintain the population.

And then we have people getting married very late, if at all, and That of course, depresses the birth rate as well. So we have a real cultural issue that's going on, that needs to be dealt with. we need to be encouraging.

Marriage and family and family formation and birth of children, and.

Not succumb to The other influences. one of the popular things now is dink A double income no kids, and Because you get to lavish all of it upon yourselves. You don't have to worry about anybody else. But what about when you're 80 or 85 years old? And you don't have another generation who's concerned about you?

People need to begin to think beyond their immediate gratification.

So poorly in fact that my counselor told me to drop out of medical school. he said you're not cut out for medicine and You're just going to torment yourself and everybody else, and we're going to help you get into another area. I was devastated. I'd only wanted to be a doctor since I was eight years old. I finally get to medical school and the person who's supposed to help me says drop out, and you know, I immediately sought wisdom from God and.

I started thinking what kind of courses have you always done well in, and what kind of courses have you struggled in? And I realized I did well. in courses where I did a lot of reading, I struggled in courses where I listened to a lot of boring lectures. Yeah, because I didn't get anything out of boring lectures. I get zero and I six hours a day.

So I made an executive decision to skip the boring lectures and to spend that time reading, and the rest of medical school was a snap. after that, and Years later, when I was back at my medical school as the commencement speaker. I Was looking for that counselor because, I was going to tell me, wasn't cut out to be a counselor, Because some people are just negative, negative, negative. They can always figure out why you can't do something, but they can't figure out how you can do something. and we really need to be positive influences in our spheres of influence.

and that's what I would tell that 25 year old. first find out what you're good at and find out how you learn, learn how you learn and throw yourself into a career, Because when you're young, that's when you're energetic, That's when you're likely to accomplish a lot. you look at Nobel Prize winners and Physics and mathematics and things like that. They usually don't get the prize until they're in their 50s, 60s or 70s, But it's for work they did when they were in their 20s and 30s.

So, you know, when you're young and Vigorous, that's the time to really throw yourself into your work.

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So what I mean Maybe more than, maybe more impressive than having three successful sons. So that's pretty impressive is Being with the same woman, happily, for over 50 years, which you have pulled off. So what specific advice would you give? to married men for keeping your marriage intact and happy I?

And work on that, but make sure you have fun together. You know, spend quality time together, you know, I enjoy to relax, playing pool, Playing pool, playing pool. when we got married. My wife did not know how to play pool, But she became a very good pool player because she says that's the way I can have quality time with you.

But it was something that you could learn the principles on. What why do pool tables have slate in them? pardon my ignorance, because if you have a wood foundation it can warp, yes, and You need that table to be very smooth and very level. That's why they do it. Oh.

1967. I was there, tanks rumbling down the streets.

It was pretty awful, but you know what's interesting About that situation is the city was absolutely torn about apart. There was a lot of racial hatred and It was like a war zone. Exactly one year later, the Detroit Tigers Were doing extremely well. they went on to win the World Series for the first time in 37 years. The city was one.

Everybody was brought together because they were so excited about the Tigers, and the moral of the story is Look at the things that bring you together. Yes, emphasize those things, not the things that tear you apart.

Unfortunately causing a real problem. Plus, Detroit was a one-horse town. Yeah, and that's never good. You need to really diversify. so combination of those things Led to a pretty big decline, and then criminal activity.

Became a real problem that went from the Motor City to the murder city and that was very problematic.

Occasionally, but not very often. I don't have any family left there. What's the neighborhood you grew up in like now?

Well, I grew up in two different neighborhoods The first neighborhood, the one I was born into, in southwest Detroit. It was a a lot of GI homes and.

They were. I thought they were pretty nice homes. I to me they were like paradise there. They were small, like 700 square feet, But they had like a little yard. in many cases.

There was a little garage and

People worked hard and they were proud of their homes. They tried to keep them up after the divorce.

We couldn't live there anymore, And in fact, we were homeless for a little while.

Yeah, after a couple of years, my mother worked very hard and we were able to get back to that neighborhood.

It looks Largely the same. Some of the neighbors were still there who were there when I was growing up. It was. it was very nice to see them, but you know, it has the wear and tear, obviously, of a few decades, but people still try to take care of their property and.

You know it. It helps me to realize how blessed I've been.

Just in terms of being able to navigate around the world to Own properties, to do all kinds of things that I never would have thought was possible. You know, people say the American dream is dead. It's not dead by any stretch of the imagination, But It required a lot of work.

Extremely dedicated hard work for many, many years. people don't just give you stuff, nor should they, but, as I tell people all the time, if you work hard and you make yourself valuable and People need you. Guess what? They pay you and you do okay.

I don't think it worked.

Yeah, and You know, the city didn't benefit from a lot of the things that more affluent people brought to it, and It deteriorated very rapidly at that point, and you know, interestingly enough, I think people have learned that people are people. Yeah, and Detroit's been making progress over the last few years. Yes.

The mayor there, Duggan, he's white, but He is a people person. I mean he became mayor by walking from door to door, Going into people's living rooms, talking to them, finding out what their needs were, developing relationships between people, you know, he not only got elected, but he got reelected and Has been working with, you know, several business entities and trying to bring real revival to Detroit.

You know to a large degree, both my brother and I Worked really hard in school because we wanted to please her, Because we knew What she was doing for us. We understood that. You know, she could have taken up the offers of some people. many of them were well-to-do individuals and Kind of forgotten about us, but she didn't you mean gotten remarried?

and.

You know, not well known or anything like that, but I think two of my classmates at Southwestern High School became physicians Wow, and at least one became a lawyer, and

So, you know they were. there were sporadic people, but you know at that time there was Much more of a push For people to do better than their parents.

And Now you don't see it as much. you see more people saying That system is against you and you're a victim, and we got a march for your rights, and you know, you need to do what you need to do in order to get your own. and if You know, if that's taking stuff from somebody else, that's okay. Those are not good messages for people. We need to remind people that people are people and that you know, you make your own bed and you lie in it and.

If you want to get ahead. There's mechanisms for doing that, but it requires hard work, and one of the reasons that People who come here as immigrants do so well Is because they look around and they say wow, You mean all I got to do is work hard. All I got to do is go to school and do well, that's all, and I can have whatever I wanted to. it's amazing. I was talking to a young woman from Cambodia.

Well, she's not so young now, but she was young when she came here, when the Camarouge came in, yes, and Completely destroyed their lives, and she ended up in one of the work camps, but at age 19 she was somehow able to get to this country, and Now she owns her own business. She became an engineer and She's just talked about all the amazing Opportunities that she found in this country that she was not exposed to before.

But she also told a cautionary tale About the kinds of things that are occurring in our country now That are very reminiscent of what happened when communism came to their country.

And, And if you go to our website, American cornerstone.

org We have a segment called my American story. There are many people, like the young woman that I just talked about, who came from communist or socialist environments, and They talk about the differences Between our country and their country, But how they see some of the very worrisome things starting to happen in our country.

So, in general, it's Leaves a lot to be desired.

so I.

But if you're objective, you know that we have the cleanest air and the cleanest water we've ever had. since we've done measurements Doesn't mean that we shouldn't pay attention to these things, But we shouldn't allow them To be used to manipulate people. Yeah, and to control people. That's, that's a real problem. And as time goes on, we learn Better and better ways to take care of the environment.

I Think we've learned to a large extent that we shouldn't be throwing away things are not biodegradable and to our oceans and poisoning our fish and.

I think there is a place for Regulations that keep us from destroying our environment, but, You know, going to the extreme and using those to control people's behavior. I think it's probably not where we want to be.

Yeah, and the grip strength of women has not. So they're much closer now than they used to be. so Men better be careful out there.

So probably shouldn't use word vaccine. I think they'll just like take this down. if we do So, let me just say I'm in favor of all vaccines and they should all be mandatory. But with that aside, What do you make of the kovat inoculation campaign, like with a couple years distance? what was that?

What is very troubling to me is the mandates that require people to get the vaccines if they want to keep their job, and So many people in the airline industry, in the medical industry.

First line responders, military, Lost their jobs, lost their pensions, Lost their livelihoods because they refused to do it. Those people have not been made whole, Even though it's been proven that they may have been right and refusing to take, you know, the vaccines and.

We also discovered that many of the alternative

Treatments that were Basically demonized, like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, Were actually very effective. But you know, we had an FDA rule that said, We can't get a EUA, The emergency use authorization for the vaccine if you had other effective treatments, so they had to, you know, denigrate those, When, in fact, The ruling should be just the opposite. Say if we're having a pandemic, Use every Avenue possible to find a solution, not just try to channel everything into one direction.

It was much higher than previous vaccines, and You know transparency requires that if you're going to treat somebody with something, You need to tell them what the benefits and risks are. We didn't do that. We just said you got to do this, and that's the declaration, and.

They completely threw that out of the window and just said This is the way it is, and this is what you got to do. And this is what we say. that's the way we do things in America, and.

I think. unfortunately, a lot of people paid the consequences for it, and you'll remember about eight months ago. They tried to say there's a new strain. It's coming back again. We may have to mask up.

Nobody was buying it and it just sort of fizzled out pretty quickly. I don't. I don't think we're gonna go that route again.

Didn't apply The kind of rigorous thought processes to this that we normally apply to new treatments, and I Hope they learned their lesson. Have they I?

Next year and we can start rebuilding that trust. but that requires transparency and And actually explaining things. one of the things that lets you know When you got a problem is when you try to punish people who disagree with you.

It's always okay for somebody to disagree, but it's not okay to punish them when they disagree with you. and You know, we were talking a little bit ago about you know election fraud. People who don't engage in election fraud Aren't offended by you talking about it and they don't try to punish you.

If I can just quote you, one thing about election fraud is people who aren't engaging in election fraud are not offended when you talk About it. I think that's worth getting tattooed on your arm. Yeah, exactly an awful lot of people seem offended by any talk of election fraud.

France banned routine mail-in balloting in 1975 Because they said there was just too much cheating, there are too many different ways to cheat and you couldn't control it, and they went to back to paper balloting and an election day Instead of an election season, and they now know their Results within a day or two.

So, you know, we're about the only country in the world that does it this way, and Why would we do that? Why has everybody else discovered that it's a problem, but we haven't?

obviously because somebody's benefiting from the way that we do it and.

I think we probably should have a congressional investigation and.

Let's look at the way it's done, in places where it's done effectively and In a way that people trust it, and let's readjust what we're doing. Why haven't we done that? Because there are too many people who benefit from the way we do it now. They don't want to change it. They don't want to fix it because Then they can't get a glass of water elected.

Fraudulent is a real threat to democracy and.

Until we fix if we can send a man to the moon. There's. some people say we didn't really do it. But if we can, If we claim we can, we can certainly fix this election system, and if other people in the world can do it, Certainly we can do it, too.

Who are you impressed by? Who did you think was a person of integrity, intelligent, hard-working? Were there any?

Mike Pompeo, for instance, Had many long conversations with him about his work in the CIA. I think.

But I Was probably.

More unhappy.

With the number of people that I saw who weren't trustworthy. Yeah, they call it the swamp, But Kenny and I call it the cesspool because the swamp at least has some good things in it. Yeah, it does.

It's pretty bad and it's gonna require a lot of work to get us back to a point of trustworthiness in the government, and I think that's the reason that The swamp or the cesspool is so frightened of Donald Trump, because he's not a Creature that was born there, that was raised there, that accepts and understands their ways, and you can't have a disruptor like that to come into your home and to disrupt it, And that's what they're afraid of, and that's why they will do anything to keep him out of the White House.

You've been around this a lot. How could that have happened?

Incompetence and negligence that anyone can imagine.

Or some intentionality.

It's hard to explain it any other way I.

But you're open to the possibility that there could have been, as you put it, some intentionality, some intentionality.

He must know that that's possible.

It's almost like a disease. Yes, and You know, they're feeling is that they are right and they are righteous and that they are the protectors of Society, and anything that they do is justifiable on that basis. It's very much like the the thinking of the radical jihadist. You know infidels, you can lie to them. You can kill them, you do whatever you want, and it doesn't count against you Because you're righteous.

why did you think it was wrong?

I Listened to the stories about what doctors did. I was particularly impressed by what missionary doctors did and I decided when I was eight years old that I would become a doctor, but

Looking at innocent little babies.

Being killed Just because they happen to be in the safest place, or you can possibly be, which is in the mother's womb. Therefore it gives you a right to kill them. Some people feel and I know Kamala Harris feels that way strongly and You know as a pediatric neurosurgeon.

I Operated on very premature babies, sometimes 27, 28, 29 weeks gestation, and We had to give those babies anesthesia. they felt everything. and Yet you have people who are willing to stick a force up into the uterus of a 27 week Baby. Grab whatever is there, twist and pull, and out comes an arm or a shoulder or another part of the anatomy, Knowing that that baby can feel that. I Mean to me, it's barbaric And I don't understand how people can do it.

I truly do not understand how medical colleagues can do that.

I Absolutely, we've had some very heated discussions, but I mean you're in a different position because you would Personally know people who's who have actually done that what you just described, which is common. What do they say?

But What gives you the right to kill another human being? Just because that human being is being protected by you? and the thing that really changed my mind is I was thinking about slavery and I said what if the Abolitionist had said why I don't believe in slavery, but I don't have any right to Tell you what you need to do. What if that had been their attitude? Where would we be?

So and and the Bible says it too and book of Proverbs, 24th chapter, 11 and 12 verse What about those people who are being drawn unto death? Innocence? did you say anything, and Doesn't he, who sees everything, know what you did and what you didn't do?

So, I think we have a responsibility. When we know something is right or wrong, we have a responsibility to speak up.

You know, I a long time ago decided that I'm going to speak out for what I believe in, and.

Even if people try to persecute you, and this comes back to my faith.

What is that little persecution against the backdrop of eternity?

So, I don't really worry about that too much.

Don't think I can improve on that. Dr. Carson. Thank you. It's been wonderful time.

It has been. Thank you very much.

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