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Welcome to "Disrespectfully," hosted by Katie Maloney and Dayna Kathan. These two besties have been through their fair share of life experiences. The good, the bad, and the unhinged. In Disrespectfully, they build off those lessons to discuss being unapologetically yourself, getting it wrong, career, mental health, relationships, sex, and whatever else they feel like. You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll probably crack a bottle of wine- join Katie and Dayna as they share new episodes Wednesday’s wherever you get your podcasts. Make sure to email us problems, questions, or anything you need advice on at DISRESPECTFULLYPOD@GMAIL.COM and we shall answer them on the pod!
Hi. Hi.
Were you feeling a little shy?
No, but it was funny. Hi. Hi. Hi. How's it going?
Good. Very good. No complaints.
I can usually find one, but I won't. I'll spare you.
I mean, no, I probably could. I could definitely find someone to complain about, but no, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling rested. I'm sleeping pretty much like a normal person. Ooh, fancy.
pants, Rich McGee over here. Fuck you. I slept terrible last night.
Oh, well, that's nothing new.
You know, yeah, it happens. Well, I fell into a deep sleep this morning and then had to get up for a dental appointment. You know, when you really want to keep going, it was, like, so good. It was a really good starting into an early, my first nap of the day. And I was interrupted.
Like a baby.
You know how babies wake up and have breakfast and then they go.
back to sleep? I want to be a baby. I'm the baby. Like, that's my dream.
Yeah, no, I do my best sleeping in the morning after I've been awake for a couple hours, too.
Oh, from 7 in the morning to 10 a.
m. it's over a few bitches.
Mine is more from, like, 6 to 8.
. Mmm, okay. Sometimes I get about 5 and I'm like, okay, I've slept long enough, but, like, I could probably.
do more. You do love a 5 o'clock. wake up. I don't think you love it, but it just happens for you.
I don't love it. It's just what happens. Sometimes. it's, like, 4 and I'm like, that's ridiculous.
Welcome to, Disrespectfully. With Katie Maloney and Dana Cathan. Unapologetically. We're here to do what we want to do. Spilling.
the tea. Babe, you're gonna.
see the power of women. Like, Disrespectfully. Should we talk about why we're gathered here today? What's going on?
The changes? Yeah, we have a little bit of a different episode today. for y'all. We're just gonna do one big, long sesh of Dub, Dub, Dee, Dee and Hometown Hero. So,
the goal with this is we are kind of testing this out, because we would like to know from you guys if you would like two episodes a week. So, what we're thinking is we'll do a regular episode. that's just all of our shenanigans, keeping it on Wednesdays, and then we'd figure out another day of the week to do a shorter episode. that is just Hometown Heroes and Dub, Dub, Dee Dee.
Yeah, because we want to be able to answer more of your questions and read more of your stories, so if we had an episode entirely dedicated to that, we could really have some fun with it.
Yeah, I feel like sometimes, because we're yapping, obviously, and we look at Leia and she's like.
. Falling asleep. Wrap. It. Up.
We have to move on to this and sometimes kind of move through it quickly, and also we want to hang out twice a week with you guys. So, I hope they like it. Do you hope they?
like it? No, I hope they hate it.
You hope they hate it? Okay, I was just checking. Of course.
Yeah, so, let us know.
So, yeah, write in, or maybe we'll put up like a little poll after it comes out. Ooh, I love a poll. On the IG,
at DisrespectfullyPod, and if you guys want this, let us know, so we can come bother you twice a week. We can have a kiki. Grace you.
with our presence. Is that what it is? Let's get into it. Let's get into it, then. Do you want to start?
Yeah, so we'll start with some hometowns.
Hometown heroes.
Hometown heroes. Okay.
Well, the first one we have is from Yajaira. Yajaira says, Alright, I debated on if I should share this stupid slash, not proud story of mine. You should always share it. Always. Always.
And here I go. Elementary, middle school, high school, I had a huge crush on this kid. Turns out. once I hit 18, I started dating his older brother. Nice.
Hot. Me and this dude were together for years, but he had a serious coke addiction. He literally would catch a bullet for a, would catch a bullet for a bag of blow before me. Oh, lordy. Anywho.
Just my type.
Big, huge red flag. Anywho, it was late at night at the family's house. Me and the brother were drinking in the garage while my ex was doing cocaine in the room. Turns out. we got real drunk and ended up hooking up in the kitchen, like full on hooking up.
When, out of nowhere, their fucking dad turns on the light and we instantly scattered like roaches. I told my ex the following day and he did not break up with me. What? Huh? Huh?
Huh? Hey, I just fucked your brother last night. Cool.
Anyway. Thanksgiving's gonna be a little weird. Yes.
Also, after that, I couldn't help but give their dad the What? Okay. I couldn't help but give their dad the. you can get it next eyes. So am I a hero?
Debatable, but it's def a story. Whoops. I mean.
you're my kind of hero. If you.
would have fucked the dad and both the brothers.
Legendary. I might get your name tattooed on my ass when we make sure we're saying it right. What are you talking about? You're absolutely a hero. I want to know.
what the dad's reaction was to her little look she gave him.
Did you ever watch Shameless?
I've watched, like a few episodes in the first.
season. There was a story like same same but different. The main character hooks up with her boyfriend's brother and the boyfriend's brother is there and passed out drunk, and like gets up for a second and they're literally like hooking up on the counter, and then he passes out and then the guy is really unstable, obviously because he's fucking his brother's girlfriend and they seem to look a little unstable. Tells the whole family about it. Yeah, I think you're.
I'm not saying that you're stable per se. I don't want to go that far out there, but I'm deeply obsessed with the story. However, I'm I wonder what the yeah, like. what was the dad thinking? Like?
is the dad like? should I tell my other son? Should I give my son that's railing this girl a high five? Are they both grounded? How does that go?
Do I fuck her? Do I get it? Honestly, don't stop there. Get the mom too.
Make it a whole family affair.
The sky's the limit. Why are we limiting ourselves?
That is pretty incredible. But I mean, good that you're no longer with the guy with the coke issue. Yeah, there's.
I know I guess we're gliding right past that. There's multiple reasons. I think you probably should stay away from this family now and possibly you'll get a court order at some point, but I love this. This is one of our best, I think one of our best hometowns we've had.
Whenever, it's like the family's involved, walking in on you, catching you. I don't know. You're hooking up with someone's brother or someone's husband. It's terrible, but you know what? Thanks for sharing.
Do you think you guys will go compete on Family Feud someday? I hope so. What are your team names?
Imagine the category. Things you shouldn't.
do in the kitchen for $500.
Excuse me? On a little side note, I saw this like meme. It was on a meme page, but basically this girl.
On TikTok or Instagram? On Instagram.
She had posted a video of her doing like those, like sound bowls, where you bang it and you know, she's very in like her mode. Oh, sound bath? Yeah, sound bath, but with the bowls, you know. And she captioned it. Can you believe I used to have a coke addiction?
And somebody had reposted and just put, Easily. Very easily.
Yes. It was one of the first things we were going to mention.
Anyway. Alright, well, thanks for sharing that. Wow. Damn.
And incredible. You're a hero and you didn't go anonymous. Like good for you. And you shouldn't.
And he didn't break up with you. Girl, you must have it going on if the brother's like not a good enough reason to break up with you.
I know. I kind of wish we had more information on that that he was like that's fine. It's okay. My dad caught you having sex with my brother, but, you know. And do you want to fuck my dad?
I mean, maybe he would take a bull over you. We don't know. So. Maybe he speaks to his addictive personality. Anyway.
Anywho. Canadi says, Morning, ladies. I wanted to start by saying the first paragraph is all love for you. Obviously, that's why we picked this. And it has nothing to do with my short story.
Haha. I fell in love with you both on Vanderpump Rules and I'm falling deeper every week with disrespectfully. Thank you for being so raw and open and honest with yourselves and all of us. I just wanted to quickly add. Katie, a goal of mine this year is to be sure of myself and my truth that I have more of an attitude like you do.
Look up to you so hard. Oh my god.
Thank you. That's so nice. I have like chills a little bit. Do you? Yeah.
That was so nice. What a compliment.
No. We love you. This is so sweet. Now let's get into this. I'm from a small town in northern Ontario and in my high school college years I definitely slept my way through some friend groups.
Get it. I wish I could say it's because my dad didn't love me. But it's because of some other fucking issues. So, needless to say, I have a few stories. Sometimes you're just horny.
It's okay. It's okay to be horny. You don't have to be like me. Okay. It's not all like your dad did these things to you.
Sometimes you're just wanting to get it on. It's fine. One that sticks out was a guy I've been friends with for a bit. Super cute. Family's, pretty well known for owning the best chip truck in town.
What does that mean? Chip truck? What's a chip truck? You ever heard of a chip truck? Like some ruffles drive by?
Is it like chips?
like fries, like the English say? Or is it like actual potato chip? Also like chip truck. That must be a Canadian thing. Where's mine?
Or maybe, who knows, maybe this person's British. Okay, maybe.
It says, tree trimming companies, production tree companies, and smaller independent contractors are buying chip trucks as an essential piece of machinery to ramp up their business. That makes way more sense. That makes way more sense. Get your head out of 7-Eleven, Katie. This is what it looks like.
Okay. So you're an American and we're idiots. I didn't know.
you could be well known for owning the best chip truck in town. Maybe it's a smaller town. You must be in a real small town if that's like glory over there. Anyway.
Okay, so we've established this has nothing to do with food. Got it. He's funny, whatever. First time we hooked up was horrible. Lasted about two minutes, and then he looked me dead in the eyes and said, I guess you just have that effect on me.
Pardon? Weird flex, but okay. Second time was on a beach which I thought would Nice. Second time was on a beach which I thought would have to make it better than the first. Romance and all.
Nope. Horrible. Sand in places where sand shouldn't be. Wet. Cold.
10 out of 10.
. Do not recommend. Have you ever had sex on a beach? No, because I'm worried.
about those very things. I've had sex on a couple of beaches.
And it's just, it's strategic in placement. But yeah, it can get. You can feel some exfoliation, if you know what I mean. But it's the third time that really takes the cake. Yes, there was a third time.
And this is like the melting sad face emoji, or melting smiling emoji. Remember how I mentioned his family owned a chip truck? Yep. How could we forget? Well, after the bar one night he tells me he has somewhere private.
we can go. Tell me this man did not take me to the musty ass basement where the store, the fucking potatoes.
Wait a minute!
Leia! It is food!
It's little potato chips where they store the fucking potatoes for the chip truck. Oh, a chip truck!
Tell me, this man did not take me to the, yeah, the musty. It's for the fucking potatoes, for the chip truck. This, apparently, is where I draw the line, because I walked right out of there and never went back to him. You bet your ass. my girlfriend and I went back the next night to get potatoes for dinner, though.
That was a ride. An actual chip truck. First of all, still must be like a very small town thing, for like, how many chip trucks are there? Or another?
maybe another country, because that is so weird to me. Like what you, Leia, found out, makes more sense to me.
than that does. Yeah, but I don't know. I wish we had chip trucks that just drove around. You could just go get a snack. Well, also, when's?
the last time you heard or saw an ice cream truck? Still sparks joy. Um, actually.
there was one that used to drive by all the time in my neighborhood. Did you ever get?
anything? No. I would. But do they take Venmo now? We don't know.
Probably. It was just cash. You'd like beg your mom for a dollar and be like, hurry! If those kids.
who come around and sell candy bars for their like sports team or whatever, except Venmo, I guarantee you the ice cream truck does. They do?
The kids have Venmo now?
Yeah, because I'll be like, sorry, I don't have cash. I never really have cash on me. They're like, I can take Zell or Venmo. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. They're like, just a couple.
questions on the screen for you right here.
They pull out a square like swiping cards. I mean, yeah, no. Um, well damn, I mean, listen.
I think we're all guilty of trying it once, twice, thrice, when it wasn't the vibe.
But I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. It is a compliment if a guy can't last with you. Because you've got him really turned on. Really.
revved up. I subscribe to that as well. Like, if it's an hour in, I mean, maybe he's having issues anatomically, but yeah, if it happens quickly, then yeah, it's like, probably is that you're just really hot and really good in bed. It's a bummer for us. But it's a bummer.
Yeah, it doesn't mean you have to be happy about it. That's, well, and you also really tried in terms of. you really tried different. You mixed it up. The beach.
The second time being on the beach is crazy. The times it's happened with me, I've been in relationships and like, we've been hooking up for a really long time.
I know that's such a fantasy where people say like, oh, sex on the beach. But I have never been like, yeah, I want to do that. Where's the weirdest?
place. you've ever had sex? A movie theater. Stop. Yeah.
What was the movie?
Wimbledon.
It was a matinee. And it was a dollar theater. No.
Not to say it wasn't Challengers. Shout out to that boyfriend. It wasn't Challengers. That is so funny. Yeah.
No. I mean, I've definitely done it in weird places, but I'm trying to think. I've done it on a ferry boat. That's kind of unique.
Yeah. I would say. Was there a lot of people?
Yeah. But we were in the car on the ferry boat. Oh. Titanic. Yeah.
I slapped the thing and then the staff came looking and, like, snapped their finger. and the whole thing happened. We didn't get caught. Well, I'm glad I didn't sink.
because you may not be here. That's true. Imagine being in a car with cars lined up next to you and the boat starts to sink. Oh, yeah. A nightmare.
That's like some Final Destination, new theorem kind of thing. Wait.
Speaking of Final Destination, I saw something the other day that logs bullied. Someone was behind a log truck. Logs flew through, but it was on the passenger side. So the driver lived, but had someone been with them and someone posted it and was like, every millennial alive is like, don't drive behind a logging truck. I will avoid that shit at all costs.
I don't like to drive.
behind any truck that has stuff in the back. Especially like those gardening trucks where they got like shovels and things like that. If something's not strapped down and it flies out,
they have a nice hoe and some like an axe pick. Yeah, some.
really sharp metal objects that will go right through your windshield. They have objects that.
look like what death chooses to go, pick people up, like what is happening back there. No, and also like things strapped to the car. Same thing, because you just, that, then you're left up to the devices of someone. You have to trust someone else that they did a good job with that.
We just don't know. Yeah, and the thing is, I try to leave a lot of space between me and that person in front of me. Just in case something and I can.
swear. Yeah, well, keep your eyes peeled for a chip truck. Oh,
yeah. Anyway, that was crazy.
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Chip trucks. Okay, well, thanks for sharing that. I guess we gotta try chip trucks.
sometimes. I mean the way we felt so stupid, Leia, always just trying to make us look dumb.
The way we were like on the right page, and then we're like, oh yeah, of course it's not food. We would only think that it's actually like something functional. But I just want to know how many chip trucks are there? Do they have the best?
one? Trying to make us look silly. Who needs friends or who needs enemies when you have a producer like Leia?
I'm trying to figure out. is it like an ice cream truck, chip truck, like you guys were saying, or is it like a potato chips? I mean it seems like it's like a food truck, but it's just chips.
We'll research it and circle back. I have no idea. Okay.
Your turn. Danny says Worst slash, scariest date story? I got you. I was living in San Diego, hard enough to be swimming in fuckboys and trying to find someone decent. Touché.
I lived there for a year and a half.
Can attest. I matched on hinge with an almost cute vintage store owner and decided to meet up. Almost cute? It was aight.
The red flags were all there, starting with dot dot dot. I was sober at the time. Very up front about it, and he decided we were going to meet at a dive bar. We meet up and I order a ginger ale and this man decides he's going to get trashed. Oh no.
Um. The drunker he got the more insane he became. He talked about his ex-wife from Korea for about 20 minutes, which at that point I should have left, but I'm a people pleaser and honestly started to feel bad for his little divorce. sob story. But then, ladies, when I tell you I became afraid, he tells me a story of a tinder date he went on a few months ago.
that ended up with his date dying. Apparently they had gone back to her place and taken acid together. He describes her as levitating and doing some voodoo shit on him. He woke up the next morning at her house and she's dead. Dead as fuck.
Goodbye, life on earth. She's gone. Police got involved and dot dot dot. No foul play. Needless to say, this man was not about to walk me to my car.
A bartender didn't charge me for my ginger ale and I got the hell out of there. I kid you not. This man texts me the next day and says he wasn't feeling the vibe and we'd be better off as friends. Okay, murderer. Thank you, sir.
Love you both. Katie, you're my style icon. Dana?
SSDGM'd. What's that? It's from MFM. That's another podcast I listen to. that I've talked about on here.
So love you for pointing that out.
That's so cute. I SSDGM'd so hard on this date. It stands for.
stay sexy, don't get murdered. Yeah, you did. Oh, I love that. Yeah, you did.
Maybe he should not tell that story. Perhaps.
Yeah, I mean this takes me back to brown flip flop guy who was telling a whole story about another woman. It's like I've overshared on a date, but I don't think I've overshared about a possible murder I was involved in. Probably a good idea not to talk about that.
No. Do people overdose.
on acid? I think that the only drug you truly cannot die from is weed. So yeah, I'm guessing you can die from that. I don't know. you can go into a psychotic break.
but also again, it's your first date when you're sober and the other person gets absolutely drunk, which again happened on that date and has happened to me on several other dates. It was me, I was the person that got too drunk. No, I'm just kidding. It's such a nightmare. so not only that, but he's like talking about an ex and then talking about this weird story.
Like, can you recall a time in which someone got wasted with you? I feel like that's happened to everyone. Oh for sure.
probably dozens of times, but the thing is, I'm right there with them probably.
Well, yeah, we're not usually sober. But I know what it's like.
there's been times where I've been taking like a month off of drinking and I go and hang out with people that are drinking and I'm like is this what I'm like? But yeah, on a first date I don't think it's always the best idea to get like super drunk anyway, because I will definitely overshare. I don't have anxiety the next day about what the fuck I was like. why would I talk about that? I look at a glass.
of wine and I'm like let me take you back to 97.
Yes.
Like what are you doing? Stop talking like that. I think my sister probably takes the cake as far as like someone getting wasted on a date with her. She was really young. it was like right after college and she was living in San Francisco.
I hope she doesn't get mad that I'm telling the story, but she didn't do anything wrong, and it's funny. And she went on a date with this personal trainer and they were like it was a happy hour during the afternoon, so it was like 4 o'clock. it was not late at all. it was meant to be just casual drinks like overt, like 6 right? And like 20 minutes into the date they're having their first drink and he goes do you want to take some Molly?
And she was like um, no, thank you, and it was a weekday. And not that that even matters, but you're like literally just.
What? Yeah, and she's so young and was probably too uncomfortable to be like I want to leave. He took it and started rolling his dick off 20 minutes later, on a date with my sister who was dead sober and, needless to say, that was their one and only date.
Why would you want to just casually do Molly when someone else isn't doing Molly and it's you're like on a date, like people have no?
like. well, he obviously yeah, he obviously wasn't. well like. why are you doing that?
That is insane. That's pretty insane.
I think it's worse than that. but yeah, glad you didn't get murdered and um, glad you are done with this person. Yeah, that.
is so unfortunate, especially when, like you know, sometimes when you're really actively dating to like, get into, like a relationship you know every date you're like I'm excited. this could be fun. you get ready, you get dressed, you look pretty and then you show up and it's just a trash bag of a human. No. Well, I.
distinctly remember. I was on a first date with someone and he was drinking like old fashions or something, and I had a martini and only had planned on just having one. and then he was like let's get another round, and then I think I thought that that was going to be the only like we were done for the night. and then he's like, let's get one more and I should have switched to water or a glass of wine, and I remember being very drunk and having a drunk make out in which he like, lifted me up at one point and like, kind of was like turning around and hit my head on a building like.
the corner of the.
Jesus. So you got a concussion. I wasn't concussed, but I never spoke to him again. so. Anyway, last one.
Sarah says I love this podcast and love topics. My ho-time story truly is short and sweet. Back in high school, when I first started to date my high school sweetheart, we got a wild hair up our butt and decided to drive to Griffith Park at night. On a school night. nonetheless.
Looking back, I am shocked. my mom let me out. LOL. Anyways, once we found the parking lot and were grateful that it was empty, we hopped into the back to bump skins. The first and only times I did it in the car.
Do you, ladies, have any sex in the car stories? I mean I've already shared one, but I definitely I've had sex in lots of cars. Would you say you've had sex in lots of cars?
Um, not like.
Well, maybe it's like the martini thing. Like one's alright.
two is genie. I probably shouldn't have had sex in any car. It's not something I did with. like every person, I dated. The same person in the movie theater.
yeah, there was the Mormon parking lot church.
Mormon parking lot church?
The parking lot, sorry, the parking lot of the Mormon church is where we'd go to hang out.
I'm surprised they didn't come out and try and save you. Well, it's the night time.
Hmm. Doesn't mean that no one was in there, but there was no cars there? but also, why would you want to be the only car in the parking lot? that just looks suspicious? I wasn't very smart.
I was also young.
I can't remember the last time. It's been a while. So I think these are all things you do when you're typically like she's in high school. I mean I definitely in with my high school boyfriend, who I've talked about before. once did it during daylight in my 94 Jetta that did not have tinted windows in, just like a cul-de-sac and which, looking back, that is so reckless.
and then we used to have this like kind of woodsy area that, like all the kids would go to. It was like a known. it was like this, like outdoor lookout space, but people were only there to go to smoke, weed and have sex. really. so we definitely would hit that place up.
but glad you didn't get caught, because I feel like there's always security guards around Griffith at night. or am I making it up? I don't know. I mean I feel like.
it's closed. Like, I don't even know how far you can drive up at night, right? I don't know. Leah?
Do you ever share with class? Have you ever boned in a car? I don't care about the hours. You don't have to share, but I want you to. Yeah.
Well, what happened was I left the headlights on my car died, so we had to call our parents, and that was devastating. It's the first time our parents met. Where were you parked? at? Around the corner from my high school.
Were they like why are you in the car? Did you tell them? or? Yeah, they were like. why are you, yeah, they were like why are you in a car?
and I was like oh, we got lost on our way to Starbucks, which is across the street from the high school, like walking distance. and they were like no, you didn't. They were just like we were just talking. They were like.
what are you doing? Also like the things that we do and thought we were slick about.
Anonymous says Hey girls, hey. I first wanted to give you your flowers on an amazing podcast here. I truly love hearing both of you talk and give real, raw advice on things that we go through privately that we are too chicken shit to speak about openly. I'm the chicken shit at times. That's fine.
we're all chicken shit at times. A few months ago, March to be exact, myself and two close friends were jumped by a group of drunk men unprovoked, I may add and unfortunately I received most of the physical damage to my body and the most to my face, due to one of the men sneaking me and knocking me out. I suffered front teeth damages, knocked my teeth out of alignment, yikes. A concussion for almost two weeks and nerve damage to my lip. Everyone around me continues to make me feel like I should be more upset and, I guess, feel more victimized, but it's been a struggle to even accept what happened and move on from it.
They've also been supportive and loving toward me. Katie, I've always been inspired by the way that you acknowledge what happened to you in the past and how transparent you were. I know that the two are not comparable. I'm so happy you survived and thrived from it, but I can't help but shake the rage and sadness I feel inside. I've tried boxing classes, therapy, and even some meditation, but I ended up feeling like Elmo in fire.
Also, my PTSD has been extreme lately that I can't think of even going to brunch without feeling like I'll get attacked again. Any advice on what might help me maneuver through these emotions without wanting to fight everyone, or at least get back to shaking ass at brunch? Thanks for reading my grammatical errors. Horror story Laters babes.
Holy shit.
I'll let you start, because you directed it obviously same same but different, but I get what you're saying. I think.
the hugest thing with the mental and emotional healing is time. It just takes time, and I don't think you should be hard on yourself. I don't think you should repress any of those feelings. It seems like you're trying to channel it and you're trying to get therapy. so I just think you need to be patient with yourself and not be hard on yourself.
It's a really awkward thing when you go through something like that because of the effect it has on the people closest to you, because I'm one of those people that I never wanted to be a burden to anyone or have anyone worry about me. Same thing when I was going through my divorce, I would not call anyone to talk, or if I was sad, I would just kind of sit alone with it or then talk in therapy about it. I think the people that you do feel comfortable with that are supportive in a way that is loving and not trying to rage, bait you or anything like that are people you should really lean on. but I think it's really also difficult too, because this is something that happened to you. You're a victim of a massive offense and that is the hardest part to get past, because you want to think, could I have done something differently?
I understand the feelings of the PTSD and the anger, and yeah, it's a really complicated set of emotions. so I understand it, but I think it's just time. mostly. I think that.
kind of like you were just saying, but random acts of violence are particularly traumatizing and difficult to work through. I would say I mean you are doing the right things that you're going through. you know trying to take certain exercise classes that help you with rage and you know seeking a therapist. One thing that I might add on to that. I bet, if you're comfortable with it, that there are support groups specifically for people who endure violent crimes would definitely be something to look into.
but then also, like Katie said at the beginning, with time, I think it'll definitely help and perhaps some exposure therapy, like slowly, who knows, maybe make a brunch reservation and if you're not feeling up for it, then don't go and then next time go and see if you're comfortable enough to go in and actually do it, and if you are then great, and if you're not, maybe next time and like, keep working toward it and I bet that eventually you'll get the ability to get there and it not be taking up so much real estate in your mind and get back to shaking your ass, which you deserve and which we all want to see and we all want from you. I'm really sorry that happened to you. That's horrifying.
Yeah, but it's only been a few months. so I think just be patient and baby steps and just look for the support where you can get it. Totes. We love you. Thank you for writing in.
Okay. Next. Kelsey says I love you both and I think you're stunning people. Thank you. I am heartbroken, navigating a breakup with the love of my life, I thought, and a friendship breakup.
We've been best friends since we were four years old and I'm sick over it. It feels like the friendship breakups are indescribably more difficult. Any advice would be much appreciated. I really want to get over my ex, but it's so difficult when he's the first man to have truly loved me wholly and beautifully. Imagine moving on from that.
Also, these are two different breakups. BFF and the ex-boyfriend. In case it sounded like one person. I'm stuck babes.
Well, I mean saying imagine, moving on from that. I have definitely been in that situation. I'm sure you have too. so I feel like that's a pretty universal experience. and wait, did she say this?
was her first? It was the first man that really loved her. I don't know if it was the first relationship, but it seems like the first very serious.
So I totally understand that. I think that sometimes you find yourself in certain relationships that go to deeper waters and that is a difficult thing to untether from. Look at it like this. Even if you have a relationship that you don't particularly care about that much and you weren't like. this is the love of my life.
Breakups are very unfun and very difficult to deal with, particularly if they're compounded by other issues you're having, such as losing a friend, which is also incredibly difficult, and we've talked about in the past that friendship breakups are sometimes worse than romantic relationships. Oh yeah. So I think that this one is just going to take time and it's sometimes harder. like they say don't get tattoos when you're dealing with some other physical thing that's going on, because it's harder to heal one part of your body when another part of your body is struggling, and I think the same is true of emotional pain. So I think that it's okay to be stuck right now.
Just acknowledge where you are and all you can do is take little steps to get better, and then it will pass and one day you're going to wake up feeling better, and I know that this is the first person that you felt wholly loved by and very seen by, but please don't get into the trap of thinking that it's going to be the only one.
that you ever have. Oh yeah. No, I think you can have many of those in your life. Breakups cause major disrupt in your life and routine, and that sort of change can be really difficult to deal with. cause you know, all the times you want to pick up the phone and call said boyfriend or best friend, like now it's, you don't have that sort of access anymore and you don't want them to have access to you as well.
so I think it's just unlearning habits, creating new ones, maybe meeting new people. I mean I think that sort of transition from that place to a new place, where you have to be accepting of how people just aren't in your life anymore, is really hard. that's a really painful time to go through because I just know that, like you think about holidays and like I remember going after my divorce, I was fine when it was the right thing. I felt good. I felt very, you know, satisfied with my decision.
but there would be things I hadn't considered, like when our wedding anniversary came up, or like then the holidays came, and those were times. it was like really difficult, because you know that's when you spend time with the people that you are closest with, but any other breakup in the past, you think about how much it made you more resilient and stronger very character building. so I think if there's a silver lining to look at, it's that as long as you are learning from this place in your life and applying it to the future, you're going to be a much stronger person, and I always think about that when I'm going through something that's really trying and really difficult. that I'm like. this is going to make me a stronger person and embracing that end of it.
just keeping in mind that it won, like I look back on the most painful breakups in my life, and at the time it felt like it was forever, and it was just like it's such a horrifying feeling. but then, like they say, with women with severe pain because of childbirth and like it's built into us, we're meant to forget pain and move on from it. so I can look back at that version of myself and remember it hurt really bad, but it just doesn't exist anymore. so you're going to be alright.
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Rachel says, I just finished the first episode and I'm obsessed. I have a question for the pod. I know it may be a bit taboo to discuss, but fuck that shit. I think you're the right women to have this open forum with. I had a traumatic sexual experience that just completely fucked my adult life up.
First time with sex was S.
A. when I was too drunk to consent on my 21st birthday. Yeesh Anywho, I'm 39 now and this experience basically halted my dating life for an entire adulthood. But I've been in therapy for a couple years now and I'm ready to dip my toe back in. But I have no idea how to start.
The topic I'm bringing to the table for discussion, how do we have healthy dating and sex lives after?
sexual assault? I don't think there's a one size fits all with this one, because it's similar to any kind of traumatic experience. I think not burying those feelings, but addressing them head on and really healing from them is the only way through it. to be honest. I'm not saying we're like reliving that experience, but like forgiving yourself, because I feel like sometimes we hang on to guilt when it comes to those types of things, and I think releasing yourself from any guilt that you might feel.
I'm not saying you have to forgive, forget, or anything like that, but to take your power back, you have to not hold yourself accountable for things that.
happen to you. Yeah, first of all, so sorry that happened to you, and I also understand that, and everyone, I think, handles those situations differently. Like, we're all different people and some people can compartmentalize and just move on, and some people need more time. So I think that in any relationship or intimacy there's a huge level of trust, and if someone broke your trust and took something from you, it can be really hard to then try and trust people in the future, and especially with something so delicate as sex and relationships. So also, particularly because it was your first experience, that's just such a rough way to start that off.
I'm really glad that you're working with a therapist and I do think that they'll be able to give you the best guidance. but as far as how to start dating, I mean it's different for everyone. if it's something that you would be comfortable with trying the apps, you can definitely do that. but I think there's going to be online. dating is always more of a risk.
and as far as like a vetting process. So you could try that. That's like an easy way to start at least, maybe like getting in some coffee dates, or just like try to start opening yourself up to people and obviously vetting them appropriately before you meet them. But then I just think, as you heal, a shift in energy will also happen for you. Like the more that you just say it out loud, like I'm ready to do this.
You also might be paying attention to your surroundings more when you're out in the world to be open to those opportunities to find you. So I think, be very kind with yourself and just know that it might be a process, but the first step is being open to it and you know taking that step.
even if it's scary. Yeah, because there's going to still be disappointments out there, unfortunately. that is the nature of dating, but not every situation has to end up as an essay situation. I think also too. I mean sometimes it's difficult because everyone can be booed up, but I always, like I'm asking my friends who know a lot of people, or if they are married or in a relationship and they're significant other, has friends?
I'm like you, have anyone? You want to introduce me to? I very much enjoy that, because I don't do dating apps. I prefer to meet people in the real world or through other people mostly, but good luck.
Trust me, I don't do them anymore, but dating apps can be hard, but yeah. so it's great when you have a little meet queue or you know. it's like basically working off referrals when you meet someone through someone, but yeah, you'll get there.
Anonymous says LA is a very vanity driven city. when you moved to LA, what shocked you and how did you deal with your self esteem?
I wouldn't say it shocked me because I feel like I was prepared for it when I moved here. but the amount of tens in the wild that are just running around and there's models and actresses and influencers and people trying to be someone, and I feel like I've always tried hard to, in terms of like, even on the internet, protect my boundaries. if someone makes me feel really bad about myself or like, I just don't ingest it, so I'll unfollow them. but it's hard not to notice when you're out here that there's just so much hotness. so I mean for me it's like I've tried really hard over the past few years to work on my self esteem from a foundational place that really didn't have anything to do with how I look, but more so how I felt about myself, and obviously your looks do play a role in that.
but I think before I mean I'm super vain. so I've always reached for those things and like just realized that it needed to come from a deeper place for me and so I feel a little bit more protected. but I would be lying if I said that I don't compare myself and that I don't feel like. a few episodes ago I was like worried about my cellulite and like we all have those things. so it's also just about being realistic about it and understanding that, like there's an unrealistic beauty standard in our culture right now, but the epicenter of that is LA, so it's just trying hard to be realistic about.
things. Yeah, I mean I don't remember really how I felt about things when I moved here. I was 20, so I mean I don't know. but now yeah, desperately trying hard not to compare myself to anyone, because I just I don't, it's impossible to. You can look at people and be like, oh my god, their body's like perfect and all this stuff, but I think that's a really slippery slope.
I try to focus on the things I do like about myself and really embrace those things like, I think whether they're physical or not, because I think at the end of the day looks fade, beauty's in the eye of the beholder, all of those things you can say. so I try to just be a well-rounded person and be very interesting. I don't want the most interesting thing about me to be the way I look. Oh yeah. I think like focusing in on, like the things that I think are my strong qualities.
I'm hilarious, I'm loyal, I'm, you know, driven, ambitious, I'm funny. I already said that one. but yeah, I just think those things are you know, and focus on that and not focus on the things that I lack, because I'm never gonna have that type of body, I'm never gonna have that type of face, but I can be the best version of myself when I'm applying it and not worrying about that other noise. Well, my.
therapist talks about it all the time. Sometimes if I'm being too fixated on something that I can't control or too hard on myself. I know it sounds corny, but affirmations like truly you have to gas yourself up. Everyone has strong pursuits. Everyone has things that are great about them.
so trying to focus on that and also, I will tell you from living out here, I think it's a generalization that there's LA people or people suck here. I think there's so many wonderful people. but I will tell you I've met a lot of very, very hot people here that are super ugly on the inside or ding dongs or have been so hot. they've never really had to develop as a person, and it shows so I personally would rather develop as a person. I think that's something that.
we've embraced as we've gotten a little bit older. is that like? it's really not about looks. I've been not initially attracted to somebody right off the bat and then I got to know them and they became the most beautiful person I've ever seen. So I don't know.
Try not to. we're all vain at some point. I mean obviously like I care about getting dressed. I care about putting makeup on. I care about like those things are all vain.
but it's also because it makes me just feel better. It makes me feel like I can enter the world with the best of heart.
Totally. You can only control what you can. so focus on what you can control and spend your time there.
So Susan says, I want advice about my breakup. I dated this guy for one year and ten months and we were amazing at first, and then we started doing long distance because I had to move for school and he had to finish school. We worked through long distance and it was working till it was not. He did not make me a priority and started saying that an hour a day to talk and text throughout the day was enough. I love him and I truly feel he was my person and he was going through a lot when we broke up.
Essentially, my question is how do you know if this is your person? I miss him so much because he was my best friend and he also said he misses me too, because I had a huge impact on him. but he knows we can't be together right now because he needs to mature. Learn to live alone. and while the distance.
How do I know when to give up or not? We said we'd meet in a couple years to catch up and maybe that could be a good time to get back together.
I think it's less about figuring out specifically if this is your person and more about letting what's going to happen, happen. The distance happened, that you're working against a few things, and also I think it can totally hold you back if you're like okay, but we'll meet up in a few years. I think at this point you need to live your life and just if it's meant to happen, it'll happen.
100%, and that could be in five years. it could be in 10 years, but I think not putting your life on pause and worrying and concerning yourself whether or not this person is the right person for you. There's multiple people that can be right for you, but I think, just focusing on yourself right now and how you feel in general about this person. I don't think this person they're saying, there's one thing, they're saying things and then they're doing things. Someone can tell you whatever bullshit they want, but if they're acting differently or not making the effort, that is a reflection of their interest and their investment in you.
I think I'd pay attention to what he's doing and not what he's saying. I would focus on yourself, because, who knows, the minute that you put this to bed, another right person for you could walk right in the door. so I think, just being more open, like you said, to what you have. It sounds like also. you're young if you're talking about school, and let me tell you, you don't want to meet your person when you're in your early 20s, because you're not going to be the same person in 10 years from now.
You could be the whole right package at the wrong address.
But I'm sorry, I know that sucks when it just becomes circumstantial and it takes you away from somebody, but I think that's often times the universe intervening in ways as well, saying like different path, let's go.
Totally. Last one. Jordan says, I'm 34 and in a happy relationship of 7 and a half years. I'm so sick of the engagement, marriage babies question I get from people all the time. You're both hilarious, so wondering if you have any clever, funny answers to reply with to throw people off.
Those questions need to stay in 2023.
. I'm over it. Maybe one for family and friends, then one for strangers and people? I don't know that well. Thank you.
I think the funniest.
thing is when people want to be like oh, are you guys going to have babies soon? You make them feel really uncomfortable. Obviously, you can't do this for friends and family, because they'll know, but you can just say like, oh well, I'm barren.
And they're like, oh, my God. You're like, yeah. Do you understand that? that is so inappropriate to ask people those questions because you don't know what their situation is. Maybe they cannot have kids.
so why are you being so invasive and nosy asking when someone's going to have kids because they might not want it. It might not be the priority in their life right now. Just to look at them and be like, oh, I'm actually barren.
Holding the stare is important too. Just the dead pan of it all. Yeah, and.
for friends and family. I think, again it's kind of throwing it back to them when they're like, when are you guys going to have kids? I'm like, when are you going to shut the fuck up? I will have kids. when you stop asking me that question.
How about that? Because I know what that feels like. It is so annoying.
Also, if it's like your parents or like there's grandparents, be like, well, you had kids and you didn't do a very good job of it, so I don't really want to repeat past mistakes. You know what I mean? For engagement in marriage, if you don't know the people very well, you can be like, oh well, my partner says I'm too ugly to marry. So I guess I'm just going to be a spinster. If you're talking to family or friends and they're divorced, you should be like, well, I was thinking about marriage, but then I saw what happened with yours.
Yeah, you haven't been the.
most inspired. I haven't been really inspired by anyone around me to get married. Oh, why? So I can hate my husband as much as you hate yours?
Yeah, Uncle Toby, aren't you on your third marriage? So I guess forever shouldn't be in your vows, right? I'll see you on the fourth, though.
I just. yeah, I think just be like, well, just because you decided to make decisions that you're not happy with doesn't mean I should. Yeah, It's like, when are you going to get married? When are you going to get divorced? Yeah, so when are you getting divorced?
Why would you ask that? Why would you ask that? Why would you ask that?
I think I'm going to get married. when I see one person around me that has a marriage that doesn't make them want to scratch their eyes out. Yeah, I'll get.
married when people's husbands stop hitting on me.
Isn't it always, always, always too, I'm sure you get this, in the DMs and the comments, when some guy is leaving you some random shit and you go to his profile, and they're always like, wifey, tagging their wife with their, and I'm like, you are such a scumbag. Oh, yeah, no.
the amount of DMs from, like, maybe not even a wife, but then all of a sudden, Valentine's Day comes around. there's never a sign of a woman in their life, girlfriend, wife, whatever, and then all of a sudden it's like, the love of my life, three years together. I'm like, three years? Why the fuck are you talking? Why are you bugging me?
First of all, it doesn't even necessarily have to be a super flirtatious interaction, but also, like, I didn't hit you up. So what you doing here, buddy? But yeah, I think you just make people feel really uncomfortable and be just really snarky with it.
I think that TikTok is the best thing that ever happened to any of us, and I feel like I've seen TikToks related to this, so also, like, search, it. Search, like, responses to when people are asking you questions you don't want to answer. But, I mean, yeah, I think any of those were great. So just, I think we would both err on the side of making people as uncomfortable as possible. Yeah.
Perhaps it'll, you're doing the Lord's work, because maybe it'll stick with them and they'll stop asking other people those questions.
Especially if you tell someone that you're barren. Are they that bored? And they're more?
like, yeah, well, I did have a baby and it came out really ugly, so I gave it away. I just decided it's probably not a good idea.
Oh, no!
Yeah, something to make them uncomfortable.
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