Disrespectfully - The Things We Do For Money | Episode 19

Hi. Hi.

How are you feeling? Are you well?

Am I? well? Mm-hmm. That's objective.

Are you hungover?

I have a kiss of a hangover.

Is that red wine coming for your ass or what?

Yeah. I was like chugging it. I went back for one more glass of red wine and came up with two. Did you notice that?

I mean, one of them wasn't for me, so of course. And then, I mean, Logan came up with two, but then handed me one. I think that's efficiency right there.

I know, because, listen, the dear, dear bartender, last night, he was, he was pouring, you know, a modest pour. Mm-hmm. And I was like, can we get the holiday pour, the at-home pour?

Can we get that disrespectfully pour, please?

Yeah. I'm going to call it the disrespectfully pour.

The disrespectfully pour. Yeah.

The Katie pour.

Welcome to Disrespectfully.

With Katie Maloney.

And Dana Kaithon.

Unapologetically.

We're here to do what we want to do.

Spilling the tea. Babe, you're going to see the power of women. Like, disrespectfully.

So, last night, we were at Ariana's event for her DSW collab. Yes. It was very cute. It was like a little Garden of Eden dinner. And it was at a really fancy hotel, and so, like, great service, great food, and then, but they did just have the one bartender, and at one point, me and Logan were standing there, and I was like, so do you want a rock, paper, scissors, like, who's getting back there?

Do I look okay?

No, you look great.

I iced my face this morning.

I stuck my face in a bowl of water. Iced water.

That's what that was.

Do I look okay? Yeah. People keep commenting that I look hungover or quote-unquote rough, and it's really devastating for me. So, technically, it would be true today.

I feel like I would look a little haggard.

So that's, I feel like we talked about this before, because I feel like we discussed if it was the Vega or Vegas nerve. Which one? We were talking about, like, the ice thing.

Vegas nerve.

Vegas nerve.

Vegas nerve.

Which should be easy for me to remember, because it's like, you should be doing it after your time in Vegas. But yeah, I filled it up with ice, and I was running a little late, but I was like, I'm not risking the puff today. So, shoved my face in that, then I put eye patches on, then I used my ice roller over the eye patches.

Yeah.

So it was really soothing, but I don't know if it did much.

I slept, like, really hard on my face, or something, to the point where I had just, like, a real hard brace in the line right here. What do they call this right here?

The nasolabial fold.

The nasolabial fold.

Which sounds different than what it is.

I know.

Well, we were discussing that in the car yesterday. I definitely think in my 30s, there have already started to be a few things that I've noticed, where people are like, oh, aging's a privilege, blah, blah. Look, it is. Of course it is. But I'm going to fight that shit tooth and nail until that sweet, sweet night takes me away.

Oh, yeah. We decided that we're going to get a mini facelift when we're in our early 40s.

Well, I said 47, but I think before 50 is a good time to be doing that. Just a little, and then perhaps I won't need the bowl of water as much. But yeah, I'm like, those lines bother me, and the problem with them, there's no good solution for them. Like, filling them, it looks really unnatural. You can fill your cheeks to help, like, lift them up, but then you're getting a face filler.

Once you start filling, that's a slippery slope. Gravity just starts, it just grabs onto your face, and it just tugs it down.

Well, you can tell when people are overfilled in the face, particularly, and it's like such a rolling stone. Once you're on that train.

Well, that's what I mean. Gravity's still going to do its thing. You can try to fill it up with as much as possible, but it's still going to drag it down. Eventually, you've got to just do the damn thing.

That's why I like permanent cosmetic procedures. It's like my nose job. It was a one and done. It was just like, you did it, and now I love my nose, so I wish there was a permanent solution, but the only things are temporary. That's when you start getting into the weeds of looking a little weird.

Besides being hungover, besides gravity, besides wrinkles, what?

I am. obviously, I bleach my hair, but I'm naturally blonde, like dark blonde, so I have really fine hair all over my body. What's that like? What is that like?

Yeah, I've been that way since I was 12.

I don't know if that's a thing in your 30s, but it's a change for me, so maybe some people were born with, maybe she's born with it, maybe it's Maybelline, but it's definitely changed for me in my 30s.

Yeah, everyone's like, oh, you're so lucky with your hair and your eyebrows, and I'm like, yeah, but guess what? Everywhere else. That's why I laser.

You were an outstanding kickball player when you were 10, because you just had the grip.

I've never been aerodynamic.

Well, yeah, I mean, we're both passionate about lasering, but I only laser my uha.

Well, underarms, bikini, Brazilian, if you will, but I got to get to the legs because I want to be like a dolphin.

Have you done your legs yet?

Not yet.

You haven't?

I know. I meant to do it this winter, but I just kind of forgot and didn't feel like it.

I'll start it with you in the fall. I've decided I'm like, it's so convenient. Lasering is the best. If you don't do it. Yeah, it's so much less painful than waxing.

Well, obviously, I don't get waxing. I don't get it because they're like, OK, grow your hair out for weeks and then we're going to rip it from your body and it's going to last for a week and then grow it back out. So all of that for like a week of smooth skin. I don't know.

No, I.

The logic. The math, don't math. I don't get it.

No, I think it's. And also, I don't know how it is in the rest of the country, but in L.A., it's price comparable. So why wouldn't you just pay to get lasered? But yeah, we should. You want to.

Yeah.

I do the water.

I do. And the only, the only downside to lasers that you have to avoid sun exposure. So in the summertime, it's kind of like, which it's endless summer in L.A., but we'll figure.

it out.

Is it?

Well, not this year was the last two years. We need to make a quick correction from last episode because we've been getting some heat, which I think is silly.

Wait, why?

Here's the thing. We're talking about DoorDash and our ops. Here's the thing. We don't think the DoorDasher is responsible for making sure the order is correct. They just go pick it up.

Correct. However, I do think sometimes when there's like an entire piece of an order missing that sometimes they forget to grab things.

Yeah. If it's yeah, if it's multiple bags or whatever, or the wrong, completely wrong order, like you can see, it's not the right name.

Well, yeah. I don't know. I mean, if you're, if someone has ever driven or done Postmates or DoorDash, do you see the order? Do you know what you're picking up? Like, do you know if there's like beverages?

I go to the office in the house. Little did we know. Yeah.

Okay. So there is a little bit of culpability on the driver. For sure. Just to make sure. I'm just saying when I, when you order, for instance, I've ordered like Starbucks before and they've like when there's been like people at my house and they've like literally forgotten like half the order because they probably go to pick it up.

Leah.

No, no. I literally lasted two weeks. I was horrible. I was horrible. Not the job for me.

You're such a great producer. So that's crazy, because I just feel like you're so detail oriented.

I just got flustered and parking is hard. I know there's a, it's a lot. That's why. So, you know, there's some things that we thrive in and there's some things we don't thrive in. And I know a lot of people are quick to be like, don't take it out on this person.

I was. I was not a great server. So obviously they to be on the show had me work at the restaurants, but I had never been a server before or a bartender. So I had to learn both those things. And I was good in sales like that's what I thrive and that's what I've been doing.

Probably after like, well, I mean, OK, the job evolved over time. So I mean, the first, like four seasons were working like full on, I would say. But it definitely got harder to maintain, like having like full on shifts with a section. It just was like not ideal or fair to. like everyone else that was working.

But, you know, well, it reminds me of that phrase.

Yeah. Don't put me. I can't do spreadsheets. Excel. I can't.

Say more. Why? Because you were bored or because.

So my friend got this job and it was a weird. There might have been some shadiness behind it. I'm not entirely sure. It was like this big French dude. And I don't know.

It was a front, basically, is what you're saying.

I don't know. I don't. I don't. I never sold a bottle. I don't know if anyone ever sold a bottle.

How long?

I was also getting paid like under the table, I think.

So it was a drug deal. It was. It was. It was. It was.

He was like. he was definitely European, and smuggling weapons or drugs is what he was.

doing. But OK. OK.

Great.

Well, mine was more legit. But I've had, I mean, had a lot of odd jobs, but I would say something that is least relatable to people. I, my first job in health care sales, was working for a sustainability division of a company. So they basically reused, clean. And I don't even know how it worked, but like medical devices that would be used.

Yes.

Literally. I had to go in. Yeah. And there was like risk. you had to do all the safety procedures, so you didn't like prick yourself with things.

Yeah. No, thanks.

And my manager was really salty and mean to me on the way out. I understand. Like if you hire someone and it doesn't work out, there are feelings. But she was like, I called her and I basically blamed it on it not being a fit for the job, which wasn't untrue. But I got a much better job.

Love.

Pretty gross.

That's disgusting.

I also sold fish at one point.

Where? At a pet store?

My first sales job was selling, no, like fish, fish that people eat, but it was the grossest. And also, I think it might have been a front. It was a weird job. But anyway, I traveled the country selling fish.

It's giving fajita, heist.

I got a little tense with the fajita. heist conversation came up because I had it passed.

Little bit. Like what you were like, so we have a deal on haddock and tuna this week.

I opened my coat.

I mean, for real, though, like canned fish, like live fish, dead fish, frozen fish sticks.

I think eventually they came out with fish sticks, but they were really gross. Do you know what swai is?

Good God.

Anyhow.

Anyway, I feel like I haven't had other jobs, but I may have blocked them from my memory just because.

I mean, yeah, if we're going back, my first job was a grocery store clerk. I mean, so I had like babysat and walk dogs and wash cars and shit. But then my first paycheck job was a grocery store clerk in which I lied about my age. And I'm not sure how to get the job because I was too young. But I don't even they like, you, know, one look at my I.D.

So I run pretty hot in more ways than one.

Oh, my God. Are you flirting with me? Very true. I mean, thank you, Katie. But seriously, with summer coming up, I've been preparing and I think I finally hacked the system.

OK, well, give me more.

Do you want to hear what my hack is?

Yes.

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What's your fave?

Well, the Bubbly Burst flavors are all insanely good, but I mean, I don't know, I crave a different flavor depending on what I'm doing. When I watch shows. at night, I might do like a glass of watermelon lime in like a wine glass over ice. And then, when I need a midday pick-me-up, I might do like a cherry lemonade or peach mango. But I think for my new podcast beverage, I'm going to do the tropical punch.

Sounds bubbly.

Oh, effervescent. Oh, yeah.

I'm a berry gal. So can I have the triple berry? Mm-hmm. We'll do some ASMR.

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No. I've never had to clean up a blowout period.

Sometimes it's out because you have to get in there.

That is disgusting.

What's your grossest job you've ever had? So you're with the drug lord, with the perfume shop. You're at Sir, slinging goat cheese balls.

Yep. I mean, I've worked at so many, so many restaurants, and that's not that they're gross, but like there's elements of grossness in restaurants, you know, you get dirty.

I should have been on, I should have taken Mike, whatever his name is.

Dirty jobs.

I'm dealing with fecal matter, fish and medical waste. I mean, it's like, what wouldn't I do for money? I was such a, because I was broke always. So I was just so desperate to work. I would literally do whatever I could get.

Oh yeah. I love that movie.

If you have not watched, have you seen Waiting?

No.

If you have ever worked in a restaurant, eaten at a restaurant, driven by a restaurant, please watch Waiting. It is the most accurate representation of what it, all those personalities in it. You've met all those people in restaurants. So it's like the creepy older manager. He was a known coke head.

They would just post a schedule in the back. You'd have to go write down what your days are.

I didn't have a phone to take photo of it. You had to write it down and hope you were right. You couldn't even double check your work.

If you forgot, you'd have to call and ask somebody.

You parked your wagon out front, went in, got your schedule, yeah, like all those things. So I'm in the office checking my schedule and I hear the door close and I turn around and there's Andy. Can I say his name? Fuck him.

Let's out him.

Let's out him. There's Andy. And with his blood red eyes, and I know I'm no one to talk because I have the world's reddest eyes.

Sweating.

Sweating. It's from dryness. And he, like, is like literally smiling at me, and I turned and I was like, this is it.

Yeah.

I'm sorry. This is like all the grossness, and then we need to move on. And then I accidentally once barfed up a baked potato there.

He was like, watch this. Yeah.

Watch this. Watch this. So I'm like bragging about it. And I was really skinny, growing up, like tiny, tiny, tiny and naturally. And I could eat anything.

Oh, did you clean up or did they have someone else?

Oh, no, I cleaned that up and it was repulsive. So anyway, dude.

But it's also true in like that movie, too, where, like everyone, like hooks up with everyone.

and like the one really, really angry server that's been there for too long, is the best. We've all known that person. Yeah. It goes back and it's like, fuck, fuck.

And then comes out and is like, and there's the other person who's like, that place is their life, and we call them lifers. And they're like, you know, teed up to become manager. Yeah.

Sorry about all the grossness, but I like it. I also feel like I'm talking too much, so tell me your life story.

Should we talk about Challengers? Because I've been thinking about it nonstop. It's been playing in my head like the movie it is, but now it's my own personal movie. So if you haven't seen Challengers yet, we won't spoil it for you, but we'll just talk about it in a way that we enjoyed it. So, Zendaya, what are the actors' names in that movie?

Zendaya.

Well, besides Zendaya. Is it Zendaya or Zendaya?

It's Zendaya. That's why I'm correcting you. Sorry. Okay. That's an asterisk.

Zendaya.

I don't know their names. I was mostly looking at their cats.

Okay. What you need to know about Challengers is Trent Reznor scoring Zendaya, Cavs, sweat,

All I know is, first of all, we obviously see movies a lot. I finally became an AMC Stubs member, so I'm really proud of myself.

I know. I'm glad you did that for us.

But it was such a good movie in general. Go see it in theaters. It's worth it. So we leave so many movies just absolutely devastated that we spent our time doing that, but it was so good. Perfect casting all around, but it's the score.

Go see it. Well, Nine Inch Nails is horny music. It is. So if they did the damn thing. Well, I mean, again, what would Social Network be without that score?

Well, yeah. And it reminded me of that, but probably because of that relation. But I don't know, because I don't want to spoil it, but it is... If you like, boys kissing and...

I was giggling the entire time, and there was one particular part. I'm sorry. You have to admit, that part was so fucking ridiculous.

No, I did not have the same reaction.

It was ridiculous.

No, I thought that it was a perfect song for that moment. Why was it perfect?

It was a children's choir.

Because it worked. I don't know. You can't say, like, why is art great? Because it is.

No, a children's choir, and it's a slow-mo wind. Things whipping through the air. And I was just like...

And it was so long.

And I was just like.

You guys, it was a slow build at first. With Katie, I could hear her start, and you're like... And then she's like uncontrollably laughing, and I look at her, and I'm like, stop.

Like, what are you doing? Are you okay?

And she's.

I.

I don't know. Okay, well, here's my question. I mean, pheromones are scents.

But, like, sweat, just seeing the side of sweat.

Do you like it when you're just getting absolutely plowed and someone's sweating in your mouth? Like, is it that the way you like it? Or, like, in situations like that?

The sight of sweat. Seeing someone just sweat and all that, I'm just like, whoa.

No, that's hot. Like, you see someone, like, a hot person in a sauna or whatever. No, that's an objectively hot woman who's dancing and she's, like, sweaty. Like, yeah, no, that's objectively hot. I would say, it's...

I mean, I would.

Like, in this movie, I was like.

I would. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Would you.

Rain on me. Yeah.

Rain on me? Ooh. Oh, my goodness. Okay, that wasn't the question I was going to ask, but you just outed yourself, you little horn dog. What I was going to ask you is, if you saw them on the street, would you be like, rain on me?

The guys? Mm-hmm. Okay, initially... We both agreed. Initially, when we were watching this, we were like, these are the dudes.

One of them.

Yeah, what you smell like? I don't give a shit.

They're so hot, I don't care. But for me, if I saw them...

You probably stink. You little stinky guy.

Give me that gym bag.

The jawline on that other one, the bone structure. on him, the calves.

Also Zendaya is just.

They just kept taking their shirts off. I was like, what is happening?

Well, and Zendaya for president, because, like, they wanted to kiss so bad. And look, everyone knows they kiss, and it's been out for a few weeks, so that's not necessarily a spoiler that you see it in the trailer. But, like, more boys should kiss.

Kiss to your friends on the mouth.

Kiss your friends on the mouth. It's okay. Like, I wish that more men would be like, yeah, I think men are attractive.

I see guys kiss all the time. Have you been to a show recently? for, like, any, like, rock bands? They're kissing all the time. Well, good.

I mean, we love to see it.

Okay, the guy behind us.

The one downside of this movie. The guy behind us.

Well, because this is always going to get me. And Dana knows the minute that somebody's being loud in a movie theater, she just looks at me like...

My whole body tenses up. I'm like, oh, no, she's mad.

Katie's going to lose it. Because, first of all, the guy was smacking and snacking so loud. Like why are you crunching... You know when people's eating chips so loud that you can hear it in the theater next door?

Yeah.

He's crunching so loud and he was working that bag. What was he eating? I don't know.

He literally.

I was doing like that. We do like the neck stretch. You're like, oh, I'm gonna have to beat them up.

To be so self-unself-aware. But maybe he does know and he doesn't care.

Well, I would rather be with someone who collapsed on a plane than be with somebody that's that person in a theater. That's the loud snacker, the making, the noise, the commenting on the movie. It's just like, sir, like everyone's here, to enjoy themselves. Just be fucking quiet. They have a whole dissertation at the beginning of the theater, like turn your phone off and shut the fuck up.

Maybe one kernel at a time is better.

Grab it and put it in your mouth. Close your mouth and chew it.

What is that? I was wondering if he was alone. I didn't look back because I couldn't look at him because you could also tell he'd be like a, like, you want to start some kind of person?

I was like, I'm not trying to get in a fight today, but no, there was definitely like multiples.

I feel like he was with people. So here's the thing. If I was with you and a friend and one of you is doing that, I would tell you to shh.

Anyway, the guy in the Barbie movie that was only laughing as loud as possible at the stuff that wasn't funny. When everyone else laughed, silence. When no one laughed, loudest person in the room.

The thing is that it takes the joy out of a movie. for me when I'm seeing a movie with you, when someone's doing that because my cortisol levels raise so high. I'm like, something terrible is about to happen. Please be quiet.

You don't want to see me angry. But it was fine. He didn't ruin it for me. It was just, there was just a couple parts where, like, he, just was like, oh, did you see that?

Well, I came here to see a movie.

The screen is quite large, hard to miss, and we're all here just specifically to see everything that we just saw. You don't need to quit it. Anyways, I hope he's having a bad week.

I do too.

Okay, but yeah, speaking of guys kissing guys and bands, should we talk about emo night? Because that was fucking epic.

The best. Let's talk about it.

Last time we were here, we mentioned that that night we were going to be deejaying.

I mean, it was one of the greatest nights of my life. First of all, emo night is always one of the greatest nights of my life. in general. You can't go and not have so much fun. So it was my basically wet dream to do that.

So it threw me for.

But yeah, it turned out great. I loved seeing from that perspective, because the stage is up high and you immediately popped right on the thing. And I was like, oh, I guess, I guess we're going up. So the problem is, when you're standing on it, there's a little tape square of your safety zone. And obviously I was so nervous going out because if I haven't felt that way since the last time, I did stand up, like the bee rabbit of it all, I'm like, vomit on my sweater already, mom's spaghetti.

But no, there's a couple of times where, like my, footing got a little but kind of recovered.

But yeah, I don't know. It was just so cool and I'm so excited. I got to do that. And obviously I got to do that because they invited you. So I felt very lucky to be doing that and was super excited and loved it.

But it's impossible to not have a good time, because it's like the camaraderie. Everyone's listening to their favorite songs for like the last, depending on how old, 20 years for me plus. And it's just the energy's felt. People are having a good time. People are drinking.

No, that's the best place. It's a. that's a litmus test for you. You don't like emo night. OK, because even like Raleigh doesn't like emo music.

Yeah, because that particular part where Jonathan Davis starts, like, I don't know, scatting.

You know, like nobody, nobody like yet. What are you supposed to do?

And I use throw ass as well.

Throw, clap cheeks, throw ass. I literally grabbed the little like DJ board thing. There was these little square, like little ends with no buttons. So I was trying to use my little like crab pincers to like my like beef pluckers, to grab onto that, to give me some stability, because then I was just like trying to throw. And I never noticed that like, didn't, didn't, didn't, didn't.

Ariana was like you said, like the rent was fucking due.

Yeah, she was. She was looking great.

Backing it fucking.

If you did that and put the YingYang twins on it, no one would know. No, no one would know. it was Korn, which was. that's the preferred.

No, I just like that. No one was expecting. And here's the thing. A lot of people are like Korn is not emo. Guess what?

I came so close to suggesting that to you. I fucking thought about it. And I know that, disrespectfully, would appreciate it. And I'm sure you're thinking about it, too.

I think, you know, I think maybe it would have been a litmus test in the room, for sure.

But I think I think, to your point, that's exactly what it is. It's a bunch. Yes, it's the. the umbrella is emo. But underneath that fall, a ton of different kinds of music.

I don't even think that is the umbrella for all of that. I think it's rock. But then these are like, very like parallels that are run very, extremely close to each other.

Well, and especially the bangers like on a leash, like I mean, if.

certain metal bands are going to share a bill on a festival or something that with very like emo centered bands, then they can be played at the same night. That's basically if you're going to go to a festival and see Slipknot and then you're going to go watch, I don't know, fucking falling in reverse or some other, like a day to remember that is played and accepted widely at Emo Night, then fuck it. Metal is. Yeah. I want here.

Corn will be played at my funeral. That's one of the things I'll probably be hoisted to. I was like, that's the fucking great song. that makes me bad.

Will be played at my.

The second thing I think that stood out for me is lovely, lovely Bryce.

Oh, OK. If you didn't listen to a rocket summer back in the day or now, truly, what were you doing? But Bryce Avery is a very lovely human, and he was also DJing, and he was DJing towards like the end of the night around, like one. And he was like, come join me. Help me with my set.

So that was going to be my point. So.

Yeah, there was a lot more people around at that point, too. But it's fine. Yeah, there's definitely a point where I kind of like squatted down and I was like, oh,

Yeah. Oswald, that ends all big. Thank you. And shout out to Emo Night.

Yeah. And I can't wait to do it again.

And the whole. Yeah. Literally. Yeah.

But yeah. And any other thoughts? What else do we play? Because people are asking, we play. So we started with Helena from my camp, because obviously.

Well, the letters.

Oh, Finch, letters to you. Letters to you. I was going, but we couldn't decide between what it is to burn and letters to you. And what it is totally. what it is to burn is like such like an anthem.

Please hold, because I think there's one more to. Oh, and then also they were like, oh, I do one more.

Oh, we did used Taste of Ink. Yes.

No, I think that was it.

Yes. So if you're wondering. That was. Oh, fuck, no.

Make Damn Sure.

Oh, Take Me Back Sunday, Make Damn, Sure. Of course. So gang was all there. It's hard, because when you only have 30 minutes, you could, like. You, really have to kind of cover your bases in terms of like getting some like semi deep cuts, some hits, some surprises.

I mean, I think we're going to win a Grammy. For Playlist curation.

So we should probably get our best DJ performance. Best dance performance.

Best twerk to inappropriate music. Out of category music.

On category. Don't even.

Well, yeah, I mean, we're claiming it now, but. Yeah, I loved it there. I mean, that was literally like up there with Great White Shark Diving for me. So I just my dreams keep coming true and it's pretty fucking lit.

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I don't want to remember this day. On this day, six years ago, your life was destroyed. Here's a slideshow to royalty-free music.

I don't want strings. On this day. Oh, you mean my wedding day? Like. I'm just trying to have a...

The emotional warfare. I'm like, Siri, go to sleep. Why did you wake up today and choose violence? Yeah, it literally pulls the like worst moments of your life, and then it just suggests it to you out of nowhere. It's like, bah, bah.

Or, you know, at one point, happy memories that are just now complete past history. But here's the business.

I have plenty of happy past memories that are present-day still happy memories. I have never once seen them in a slide. So what the fuck is that about? You like, why, Ava, this looks like such a good day. Why don't you pick one where I'm smiling and then I'm still smiling about it present-day?

Yeah, here's all those screenshots you took of that one conversation that you were like having an entire, like, you know, conversation with your friends about.

Anyways, I don't know. She's been extra hostile lately. It is so weird when that happens. I'm like, what is going on? Actually, do you know what I did yesterday?

On this day. Oh, you mean my honeymoon?

Boom.

This is. I got something for you. This is dark. Girl, I got something for you.

This is dark. On this day, your mom died. Literally, I had one that, like, was like medications up. I'm like, I remember. Or it's just like on this day.

It's a random day three years ago. And it's just photo. It's like, what is this about? Why can't you do like, why can't you put something together for me that I could actually use?

Yeah, or it's like this one photo with this one guy that ruined your life. And it's the only photo you guys have together, because he kind of kept you on the low and you knew it wasn't really a thing, but you kept going along with it. So you had this one photo and you never really deleted it. Yeah, that's coming up in the slideshow. Yeah, but I just don't understand.

I wish like. I wish when you took a photo, it's like, do you want to commit this to memory? What do you think, girl? Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like you could do it and then maybe she could be more aware and more conscious.

That's what I mean. I don't want. I don't want a slideshow of these random photos. I took this night, you know, I got so many damn photos that I don't could probably just delete, but I don't need a slideshow of it three years later.

I wish there was an easy functionality, because I probably have what 23,000 pieces of media on my phone to like go through all the garbage. that was relevant for five seconds that you needed.

That's what I mean. So it's like if, if there's a particular night that was special, that I might would like like to pop up in my memories that was special, that I could have that like sweet, sweet music to make. Oh my God thing. think the memory that would be great. So if there was a function when that shit happened, that was like this is my right, like you, to remind me of, yeah, that that's the function I'm talking about.

That is still a happiest day of my life. I've never, once, never in the slideshow, have I seen one great white shark. Do you have any photos of great white sharks? I have my phone, never seen it in a sledge.

That's what I'm talking about. No, but every every August, you know, I'm like on this day. I know, I guess what I know, except for this. last year. I kind of forgot, which is weird.

It's because she's the only one that's keeping that memory in life. Stoking that fire. You're like girl. Let it go.

Yeah, what if I? I wonder if I have any memories? Yeah, should we check our on this days? What's, what's your on this day?

How do you check it? Because sometimes, like when I swipe over, it's just there.

Why is it not there right now? You go to for you. Yeah, you have to go to for you, and then it's oh, I have one for my Savannah trip. It's just a bunch of pictures of me.

wait, it's playing rock music too. It's Siri's listening to us.

Wait over the years back in the day. My favorite is pet friends.

Oh, here's a photo of my friend that died. Mine is mostly.

I love the ones that are just like a random dinner from November 1st, 2014.

Okay, what I'm referring to is when you swipe this way and it pops up there, that's you guys just only looking for it.

No, no, I know, sometimes it's well, sometimes. Yeah, it'll just go like this. Yeah, you just have to scroll. that is jump scare. Well, I took it off my.

What? and then I guess we should basement at all. What do you think about the? so the second Boeing whistleblower just died like accidentally. Do you think that they're getting?

So there's just saying that there's safety issues. Well, we've seen that. Yes.

Well, when a panel flies off mid-flight, they're basically saying I think it's a natural causes, which is weird,

but I'm like, yeah, so John Barnett was a former quality control manager at Boeing. So a former Boeing employee known for raising concerns about the firm's production standards has been found dead in the US. He worked for more than 30 years before retiring in 2017. in the days before his death. He had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company.

I don't know. I just feel like they skated right over it, and it's very weird to me that there's a second one.

I mean, I know, like people die every day. So it's like, okay, that could just be coincidental, but I think it's weird when someone's willing to go out there and start talking about these issues, but it's like, well, then, just fix your issues. Yeah. Unless I don't, I don't know. I don't know.

No, the second. I look at my plane now, I'm like I avoid them and I have to plan it. I'm like here to Seattle. I just had to take one because it's just like the easiest route. Obviously, that's their hub and I don't like it.

No, not a good look, guys. Basement? Oh, yeah. Who's in your basement?

Okay, I usually prepare this and I'm good about it, but I literally didn't think about it until right now. But so the only thing I can think of this week would be he's lived there, though. He has residency Tom Sandoval. after his watch, what happens live bullshit. his watch.

Yeah, it was a nice PR move for him, but you know, you can't say, you can't go and say that you tried talking to Ariana off camera when you fucking didn't. Okay, who's in yours? Um, can you guess who's in mine? No. So last night there was a photographer.

Well, yeah, and when we got there we like obviously go right to the cocktail bar and we're like some of the first ones there, and it's next to the step and repeat and she comes over and she's like, okay, guys, who's ready for the step and repeat, who's ready, takes pictures and we were like, we're getting a drink and she's like, okay, we'll have a come take a photo.

and I was like, no, we're gonna get a drink first. like she was fucking up the whole vibe of the thing and I was like on my way to go say hello to Ariana's. like manager and you know, like it's the party you want to interact with people there and like she like literally stopped and she was. can I get a picture of you and these girls over here? I'm like, can I literally go do what I'm trying to do right now?

Really? Well, maybe she can take photos of who's in your basement and send them back to us. I'd like to know. I mean like I listen again.

I'd hate getting on people's case. They're trying to do their jobs, but this was like I think everyone was kind of looking at each other like what's happening.

No, I've never seen anything like it. It was she's very intense.

I've been a lot of these types of things that I've never seen. it wouldn't be of its way. So, ma'am, go in the basement, basement, hometown, what hometown?

I feel like I'm forgetting someone, but you know, we'll get him in there next week, hometown, hometown.

Okay, Becca says hi, Dana and Katie. I just want to say I love the pod so much. you guys are breath of fresh air in the podcast pool and I love listening to your banter every week. Thank you. I have a horror story of a voice memo.

No, that's a horror show.

That is a horror show.

So that's American American. Wait, what is it America? That's American Horror Story, season 13..

Yeah, it's never going to be just like me just talking about what I have for breakfast and someone just gets that bullshit sort of rant that I'm on. It's going to be me saying something horribly about them or about myself, or just just something that you just it's not for their ears.

Oh, yeah, you and you should have. we all say shitty things about each other. Like we have. you're allowed to rant to your friends in a private, safe space. Like she would obviously never want to say this this person and hurt his feelings, and he just said understood, understood.

Yeah, I don't know. I know someone else recently told me a similar, really horrible story like that and again leave your phone in another room if you got to talk some shit,

but put it in a safe.

Oh my God. That's a lot of vomit to ruin an entire TV.

To go through the floors is crazy.

Like a Jesus Christ.

That is such a bummer. I feel like every everyone has a four loco story. If you ever drank a four loco pre-formulation, then.

I have.

I have. we all have Haley. That was such a great that was so well written too.

I know.

So we loved it. Thanks for sending that in. Are you a writer?

Okay. All right. Well, I guess we'll move on to the BD.

Yes, sir. Yeah.

All right says hi, Queens. I admire the both of you so much. you exude BD. I admire the mental emotion strength you both hold and would love some advice or words of encouragement on the topic of not shaming yourself or feeling guilty after standing up for yourself or setting boundaries and not falling back on them. I struggle a lot with holding guilt and shame and would love to be able to move through my needs unapologetically.

Yeah, I think I mean I would just echo a lot of what you said. like it does. I think, come with time and being more sure of yourself and also understanding that when people resist your boundaries, that's usually because they don't have the same type of necessarily like emotional maturity that you do, and they people are always going to try to push through your boundaries and guilt and shame kind of a wasted thing at some point. like you have to make your choices and know that they were right for you. And if it was doing the right thing for yourself, that's all everyone should be focusing on right?

and if anyone's making you feel guilty for standing up for yourself or upholding boundaries, that's on them. Yeah, that's not on you. So that's a projection and they don't have boundaries themselves.

Correct.

Maybe consider eliminating those individuals. Agreed. Yeah.

My name is Evan and I'm from Orlando. My question. Hi, girls. I'm asking your advice from a woman's perspective because I love you both, what you both stand for and how beautiful you girls are, on the inside and out. Thank you, Evan.

Well, thanks, Evan.

Let's start with the hair, because the rest of it's like really serious.

The hair, I mean, a lot of it is in like the cut, just to make it as like manageable and least like kind of maintenance and style as possible. So it's sort of like layered in a way and texturized in the front of these pieces and then in the back. But I, when it's wet, I use this like Paul Mitchell, like it's called, like Wetworks sort of hold style gel and that kind of like, I just put that in while it's wet.

Tussle your fingers through it.

Yeah, and that kind of, and then I just sort of like, push it back and then let it all just like throughout the day and fuck by my ears. Sometimes I'll use like a one of those dryer brushes to like, just let the pack like go straight down, but that's pretty much it. I don't like to do too much with it.

Your hair always looks amazing and it's low maintenance. I feel like you just do that for a few minutes and it looks great. So just getting more comfortable with it.

Oh, like the oil, the Lulavie hair oil too is fucking fire.

Yeah, not to plug Lulavie, but we actually use that shit.

No, but the hair oil is, because it doesn't, it's not going to like weigh it down or like make it too like, of that, like oiliness. It's just like a really nice lightweight too. If you need some like extra, especially on the ends, really beautiful and it smells nice. But anyway, and also like congratulations on like everything and where you've come to so far. That's just like a wonderful feeling to just start to like really embrace your body and the feelings that you're having within it.

Yeah, to this, I would say also, yes, congratulations. I mean, I've never lived a trans experience. So that obviously adds another layer of complications around your sexual identity. So the fact that you are so comfortable and you want to explore this is amazing. I would say you can do all of the like, weeding out that you want.

So yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of duds, but a lot of great ones too. So I mean, you're just going to have to just kind of test the waters.

Honestly, I don't know a single person alive I've ever spoken to. that was like, well, my first time was the best time I've ever had. So it's probably there will be, you know, kinks that need to be worked out and you know, kinks that you're going to work out. But yeah, go for it when you feel ready. The right person.

Hello. So in college, I was in a situation ship with a guy. Long story short, we were thing for about three years. I was more in a relationship with him, while he was more in a relationship with everyone else, aka he posted a Valentine's Day picture with another girl while still hooking up with me. Fast forward, I'm 29 now and one of my best friends from college has informed me that she's been seeing him for three months and has been keeping it a secret.

I don't think you're overreacting. I think that different things bother different people. So if this bothers you and you've expressed that, furthermore, I think the biggest thing right now is how she's reacting to you, expressing these feelings. If this is how you feel, it's how you feel, and if she's just going to call you salty and bitter and say you're not talking shit about your current relationship, you can be in a happy relationship and still have feelings about things from your past. That's perfectly acceptable.

Yeah, I would say it has more to do with the communication and then how she's reacting than truly this guy or whatever. I think if she just told you about it, do you think you would be as upset?

It's probably more about the lying that's happening. Like, dishonesty is always...

For me, yeah. If people were to just be very upfront and forthright with me about stuff, whether it was stuff that could be potentially hurtful, I'm, nine times out of ten, going to be way more understanding and way more rational about those things that could potentially hurt me if they had lied about it.

Oh, if I find out. And then, yeah, lying is like a big deal breaker for me. I can't handle that. So I'm sure it's more about all of those things. So all that to say, I don't think you're overreacting.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

And she probably feels guilt, so.

Exactly.

Yeah. You're not overreacting.

Anonymous says, This podcast is life. Is it wrong to not want to see people? I have unfinished business with? Meaning we haven't hashed things out from past events, but they just want to sweep everything under the rug. Being invited to things is nice, but being fake is torture.

Correct. For me, yeah, I'm one of those people that needs to be able to address things, to move on, to come to some kind of like basic understanding of just like. this is how I felt about it. And we can always agree to disagree, but just to get it out in the open, I don't know what the resolve is there. But when people just don't ever want to confront those types of things and they just want to like be ignorant about it, that's very frustrating thing for me personally.

Honestly, on the go.

And it's not about holding a grudge. Like. it's not about like being grudge holding or anything like that. It's just like, if you like, I would, it's perfectly rational to want to be able to just discuss things in order to move on from them. Totally.

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