Dissecting the diseases infecting America

The National Security Hour exposes the wolves in sheep's clothing and their nefarious plots to undermine and destroy U.S. national security.

Welcome to the National Security Hour. I'm, Ed Hugglin, your host for this evening. My American Patriots series continues tonight with a very special guest, George McClellan, who served in the United States Army and then continued his service to our nation for 43 years in law enforcement. George is a regular contributor and writer for the America Outloud talk radio network. I've engaged with George prior on common ground to save and salvage our nation from the grips of leftists seeking to destroy it.

In this discussion, we'll cover several articles that George has penned. All these are available on americaoutloud.news, that's americaoutloud.news. But we're also going to dig into a bit of George's thinking and his concerns, as we also cover his background, some of his unique experiences being a policeman, and ask him what inspired him to a lifetime of service. Now I've had other American Patriots on prior, like Mr. Roman Buehler, where we focused on his leadership in pushing forth a new constitutional amendment, Keep the Nine, for the SCOTUS justices.

And Mr. Michael Haywood, a retired Army colonel, who wrote The Spoils of War, which provided some great insights into how Russia's oligarchy operates. And the United States Air Force Colonel, Lieutenant Colonel, retired, Ryan Swayze, whose Walk the Talk Foundation is an effort to take on the guerrilla, the Department of Defense, to ensure there's a truly independent and responsive Inspector General. Now, the purpose of this American Patriots series, regardless of the political leanings of my guest, is to look into the lives, the lessons, and the efforts of real Americans who sacrifice daily for the security and advancement of our republic. This series brings to you everyday Americans like yourself, to show you that anyone can make a difference in our society, our country, and do so in advancing our freedoms.

It doesn't matter how old you are, or how young you are, you can make a difference. The lesson for our listeners is, you can change things for the better. You don't need any special permissions here. You are empowered. You are empowered by your own civil and constitutional rights.

All you have to do is act. So, without further delay, let me introduce my guest for today, Mr. George McClellan. He is a California native, a regular U.S. Army veteran who served post-Korea tour in the United States Army.

But he didn't stop there. He then went on to a professional career covering 43 years in law enforcement, including the California Highway Patrol and the U.S. Naval Investigative Service. He's a world traveler and is a co-owner in a security consulting company. Now, this is interesting.

He plays the bagpipe since 1975 and resides now in Gilmore County, Georgia. So tonight, we'll start by discussing how the left is destroying America, our Constitution, and driving chaos, division, and terror, with the focus on some of George's most recent articles. Then, in the second segment, we're going to dig into a little bit of George's background, motivators in the second segment, as this part of the American Patriot Series is all about George, who is indeed a patriot. And then we'll close out today in the third segment by talking about the deep state and its allies. But we'll do that with a focus on the FBI.

But we'll also dig back into some of the articles George started penning back in 2018, because they're very relevant. You'll see, they're very relevant to today. So, George, let's start by discussing the first article here, and we'll go to this here, Why Aren't We Alarmed by the Disintegration of Our Constitutionalism? America Out Loud. And with that, George, over to you for your comments on this article here.

I say it all started post-Vietnam in the 70s, when the left infiltrated our system of higher education, filling the professorial ranks with their oddball radicals, the SDS, Weatherman and Castro commies, because they were bolstered by the success of their mission to get America out of the Vietnam War. The media participated in that. They filled the airways with anti-American propaganda, calling soldiers murderers, baby killers, and America's low morale after the Vietnam conflict proved a ripe ground for recruiting young recruits and young activists, the Draft Dodgers and their girlfriends. And we see today they're out there in our colleges pushing the radical anti-American narrative, calling America for the cause of the world's problems.

military colleges and campuses. And so, you know, how close do you think we are to moving to a totalitarian state? And do you think the people are actually waking up and understanding what's happening?

You might even say it started World War I, when Wilson was the president, Woodrow Wilson.

But my essays, I try to keep them to one page or so. And I'm speaking to a group who do not understand all of that, but many do understand the Vietnam and they can see what I'm talking about. I do not ignore the other ones, but it's not important to their level of understanding.

But, like the movie, Con Man said, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world. he didn't exist. Okay, to me, that's the heart of this whole aspect. What were your thoughts in terms of this, the devil knows scripture, and what's the key elements you wanted to point out there?

They're coming apart like a cheap Chinese watch.

And we're told that one day there will be a final pope, the last pope. Is this guy, is Francis it? I don't know.

Who's going to replace him? Has he put his stooges in the hierarchy? You know, we have these problems, and they're there to be seen. We just have to understand it. I'm not anti-Catholic, but I can certainly see any more than I'm anti-higher education, but I can certainly see where the problems are.

So this is an interesting here, because this is something I point out frequently in my discussions. You speak of the Civil Rights Act, and, even though the Democrats vehemently opposed the Civil Rights Act, because the Republicans were in the majority and voted this in, LBJ went along with it. But they've used it ever since, as you write, to insist Americans should accept and redress the past ills committed by white ancestors against their black brothers. Speak a little bit more about your thoughts on this.

We have cultural disagreements.

But their goal is to change America, and we are under attack. And they will use any subterfuge, any lie, any dissimilation to achieve that. Racism is the one that works, as we've seen in the last four years.

Census data, about 8 million of those were black, but 22 million of those are white. Now, why is it that you never hear that there's three times more whites below the poverty line than blacks? Because it goes to what you're talking about here. They use racism as their tool and their kludgeon. But when people look at the facts here, the facts speak to a wholly different environment.

When you have three times more whites, okay, living below the poverty line than blacks, that says a hell of a lot as to why aren't we addressing the issue of poverty overall? And the reason why is because they like to use it as a tool. But when you take a look at what's the incarceration rate and the dissolvement of the families, okay, when you take a look at that on the black side of that equation, it's significantly greater than those in the poor and the whites. And why is that? It's because the Democrats, in my opinion, use this racism not only to kludgeon things, but also to perpetuate this victimhood.

And then they do that by furthering, destroying the culture. And I think that's why I think black America is waking up in here. What were your thoughts on that?

Why is it? the Democrats wish to cancel everything except for the one thing that started it all, the party of slavery, the Democratic Party?

By welfare and their lies, dissimilation, their promises, they will keep that group of people in check. They don't have to be wearing chains and pulling plows and picking cotton. They just have to do what they're told.

And isn't that just amazing? We've got about a minute and a half here left. So let's go on to the next article here. Making racism, because this ties in, the central argument for Biden's supremacy on immigration. All right.

And in this, you talk about the illegal invasion, stuff like that. Give us a few notes on that, on this topic before we go to break here. We've got about one minute for you to chime in here.

So we're being infiltrated by not only for voters, but I think the Biden administration has lost control of the immigration issue. Mayorkas is a criminal, as far as I'm concerned, and he should be tried as a criminal, treasonous one even. And so is the bumpkin Biden. But those are things to be settled. If we follow the Constitution way, they have to be settled.

But racism extends to anybody who is not white. They are the victims.

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What's interesting here is, is that George's article here speaks to a key amendment in the U.S. Constitution, the 10th Amendment, and Texas Governor Abbott has been fighting the Biden administration to stop this illegal invasion here. And so this article highlights the 10th Amendment tells us that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people. Okay, so why don't you give us a little bit more insight on here and this battle here, because there's a critical battle that's taking place with the Governor Abbott and the administration.

They'll pretend, like it may be, just to look like that's what they're doing. But every governor of every state has a right to protect the state. That's what he's there for. Their Constitution allows for it. That amendment has the key to make it happen.

I'm waiting for it to be discussed in the Supreme Court one day, but they've kind of brushed over it right now and let Abbott carry on.

If you've got 14 million people, when you take a look at that, that's 14 cities of 20,000 people for every state of the union, all 50 states, and you tell me that's not an invasion. It's just amazing. But let's go on to one more article here before going to your background stuff, teetering on the precipice of full-blown anarchy. Now, I've heard from many of my different colleagues in the intelligence community, across law enforcement, other stuff like that, there's a lot of concern here about that. we're actually teetering on the precipice of full-blown anarchy.

Give us some thoughts and what you're talking about in your article here, George.

And now, with our modern technology, they can read your telephone, they can follow you with your telephone, like they do terrorist leaders. And if you organize or attempt to organize, then they'll come after you, even on your telephone, some resistance to something, they will be at your door immediately, and you will be charged with a conspiracy crime, and they have the evidence of it. So we are all but helpless to resist the state by anything other than the Constitution. We have to use the Constitution. That's the way.

And this idea of everybody having guns, yes, when push comes to shove, then you've got to protect yourself. But you will always be wrong. as long as the fascists, the Biden types, are running in the government. They can send the FBI out to arrest you. They can send the IRS out to seize your house for whatever nonpayment they claim you make.

They can send the ATF out to seize all your guns. So, you know, the citizens. now, in this modern day, we're between a rock and a hard spot.

While at the same time, the two-chair justice system is full-blown. So great points on that, George. So let me move on to George yourself here, a little bit, okay. And so, you know, to me, having engaged with you a couple different times and reading your articles and such, you know, you could just go retire and go do whatever else you want to do. But you continue to write these articles that bring America's attention to different aspects.

And I applaud that greatly. But let me ask, you know, who inspired you in both not only your career, but your life the most, and maybe even to enter into law enforcement, maybe a couple different things. But who inspired you? And then who inspired you into law enforcement?

And I was pretty far down on the list, although I passed it. But there was a little rule that if you were in the military and on the list, they'd freeze your name on the list. So I thought I'd join the Army and get some experience as a military policeman.

And that froze my name on the list. However, while I was in the Army, classification and assignment, pulled three of us out of the field training and said, you know, you guys are guaranteed to be MPs, go to MP school, but you've scored these scores on the Battery B test, and the Army wants to offer you another opportunity for another job. What was it? Well, guy says it's in crypto. Well, I've never heard of crypto.

What is it? Well, I don't know, but I can tell you this. You can make E5 in two years and we'll get a top secret security clearance. Well, throw me in a briar patch. And I did.

I went to a nine month school at Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, on how to repair those old stepping road of crypto machines and the teletypes that they service. Stuff, that's no longer, they're all gone. That whole field is gone. Anyway, I did my three years. I made E5 in less than two years.

I had a TS clearance. I went on the California Highway Patrol, met my wife, started my family, and then my values changed. I could picture myself at age 50 standing out in the rain writing a ticket. And I said, no, there's something better than this. And O&I at the time, it was O&I, were hiring contract agents for the Navy.

And I said, well, that's, and a friend of mine who did it, a deputy from the county sheriff's office, he got hired and he said it was a good deal. And don't you know, you got to get in on them, good deals. So, so I applied and my wife wondered, well, you got a job, now, what are you going to do? And I thought, no, you don't miss opportunities like this. So I left the Highway Patrol five years.

And next day I was in Los Angeles doing background investigations. And, and then the background investigation, the DIS was formed and we lost that. I stayed a criminal investigator. They sent me to the Philippines. And 21 years later, I was where I wanted to be back here in Georgia.

I did, I discharged out of Fort Gordon in 64.. And so I fell in love with Georgia. My wife likes it here. I like it here. I've been 25 years up here in Gilmer County.

Now you ask, how did I get involved? I got, I became the chairman of the Republican party up here. And I run that for, for a while during the, uh, well, the Rhino days. And I was not at all happy with what the direction the GOP was taken. So I started writing these articles too.

And then I gave up, gave that up. And so, you know, I just turned 85 last week and I still like to write, keep my mind going. And basically, that's it. That's, that's my life in a nutshell.

That TS clearance was still active. And that's, that helped get me into the, uh, when I, which then became NIS, which after I retired became NCIS.

But, um,

with NIS, uh, when I was in the Philippines at Subic Bay, we, we started recognizing Chinese influence and we were not really great counterintelligence people, not really noble, but we knew how to collect data and it was an alarming thing. Later, I was the assistant special agent in charge in London, England, and that's where we saw the, um, uh, the rise of Islamic terrorism. I mean, the member of the Bogota Rosa Red Brigade who captured, uh, captured a general, uh, amongst other people. I was involved in that investigation. Um, I was involved in the Lone Tree investigation from London.

So we, uh, I've had some good times and I've written about them. I got books of my stories. My dad never wrote his stories. I've written all of them.

here? They're continuing to push the envelope with their neighbors, like the Philippines and others in Taiwan. Okay. In terms of borders and other stuff like that. So the point, though, in this is that these are perpetual battles that we're fighting throughout this.

And, and George lived and fought in a number of the different things. And people forget back in the 80s and 90s with the Red Brigade, the terrorists and other Islamic cell stuff, and, and throughout Europe and such. Okay. And the Cold War going on. Okay.

It was extremely dangerous. It was extremely dangerous. And, and during the Cold War, even though it was mostly Cold War, it was hot at times when planes were shot down and we lost different airmen and stuff. And so very interesting there, but you talk about writing a number of different things, stuff like that. You also wrote a book, Perilous Paths, and this is, can be found on the americaoutloud.news website also.

Can you give us some insight into this book, what it's about and why, what inspired you to write this book?

But I go out every year and I write those travel articles. and here's this guy shows up and he was a member of the John Jacob Astor fur company who went on foot after Lewis and Clark. And by the way, he knew Lewis and Clark. They fought together in the Wayne Indian Wars. This fellow, Robert McClellan, he could speak several Indian dialects because he was born on the frontier, Mercerburg, Pennsylvania.

And, uh, he, he, he could dress like Indian and, and portray himself as an Indian and get away with it. So he was a hired as a spy for, by General Anthony Wayne. And, uh, when that business was over, the army hired him as a quartermaster and he, where he learned to read and write and do his sums. And it was a pretty smart fellow. Then they sent him to St.

Louis, and that was before, uh, that was before, uh, uh, the Louisiana purchase. But we were, we were moving out there. Americans were moving out there and he started to be a fur trapper up and down the Missouri river. And then he met, uh, Manuel Lisa, who had his own company. It was just his conflict with the Indians was interesting.

And then he became, uh, got hired, or as a partner, he bought in as a partner with John J. Capastor and went all the way to the mouth of the Columbia river and all the way back, either in a canoe or on foot. The crows stole all the horses. So that was a story. I figured it was one man.

He had to, it had to be written. And so I wrote it.

If you had a few pointers for today's younger generations, what would be your one or two top pointers for today's younger generations?

And he's exactly right. Now, when we come back from break, we're going to go into the third segment. here. We're going to talk about the deep state and its allies, with the focus on the FBI. But be sure to make America outloud.com, America outloud.news your daily stop for all the latest news, all of these podcasts and happenings.

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But it just really warms our hearts, because what you see here in America is people like George who make and create what America's all about, a true melting pot, a true set of folks who don't look at race, religion, and other stuff as different, diverse things, but as one America. Okay. Now, as we go into this third statement here, we're going to start off with the current article George has written, but we're going to go back to some articles he wrote back in 2018, when he first started publishing about America Out and Out News. Now, as he said, he's been publishing much longer than that. But the first article there is, lost in the labyrinth of the FBI's vaults, integrity and decency for sale.

So why is it, George, that you think the FBI is so corrupt? Is it the leadership? Is it all the people? Some of the people? What are your thoughts there?

Edgar Hoover was not anti-American. He was very, very pro-American. But he understood politicians. And he said, if you want to control a politician, you grab them by the, and you keep control of them. So he spied on everybody and kept files on everybody.

Well, now he's dead and gone. But the FBI still does that. And when Chuckie Schumer once said, if you screw with the intelligence agencies, you don't know what you're getting a hold of, that's because they have something on everybody. Everybody.

I think our government really is probably run by the intelligence agencies. They call the shots. You can put, how many directors of the CIA have been in and out for one term of a president or something? They don't last long. But people like Worrell, who was an acting CIA director, he's there still.

So that's where the influences are. That's the deep state. It's a massive federal bureaucratic machine of countless unnamed worker bees afraid of losing their jobs if they stray from the progressive path.

Now, I started warning them about this back three decades ago, but everybody looked at me with big hairy eyeballs like I was nuts, okay? But then it came 2016 and the dossier and the impeachments and all the other stuff and the riots and stuff, okay? And they started to understand that, well, there's a little bit more here than maybe we thought. But you're absolutely right. I think our intelligence community folks and mass security folks and FBI folks, I have a number of friends work there, are phenomenal.

But you're right. They have jobs. They're trying to hang on to the jobs. And if you don't toe the line, you get outed and then you get ousted. And we've seen from a number of different folks.

But from the FBI, how do we get accountability for those who are corrupt in the FBI? Now, we can not only look, in my opinion, at the Constitution, but there's also U.S. Code Title 18, where it deals with the oath of office. Those people who abrogate their oath of office can be convicted, imprisoned, fined, and precluded from ever serving in public office or public positions. again, okay?

But we haven't used this. George, what are your thoughts on holding people accountable for what's been happening here?

You pick the lowest fruit. So you go to the DOJ and you start with the underlings. You go with the FBI and you start with the deputy assistant directors and pick those people off.

Because if we don't, it just says to the other side, you can do whatever you want. And you're just going to come back and you can go free again. There has to be some accountability. Just like the BLM Antifa folks, there's been little to no accountability for the billions of damaged federal buildings destroyed. There's no comparison to the 6th January folks.

But what are your thoughts on that before we move to the next article, George?

And they deal with things swiftly and forcefully. And there's some benefits to that, you know, to hold in terms of accountability. Now, in this next article you have, has the FBI forsaken us? Can it be saved? Now, here you start this article with a ray of hope.

Because, to the audience here, I had four decades in the intelligence community. George has 43 years in law enforcement, with different elements of the federal government as well. The majority of these folks are true patriots, but they have to work under these politicized bureaucrats who do different things here. But the FBI did come through recently. You know, they arrested the 11 ISIS folks who came across the border, you know.

But why is it, George, that the FBI, is it forsaken? Can it be saved? Give us a little bit of your thoughts there in terms of what you're talking about in this article.

I always wonder, why are there more former FBI agents out here than retired FBI agents? Because those people realized what was going on, and they quit. They quit and went on to other things. There are a lot of jobs out there that have an FBI background that will get you hired, judges, DAs, and things like that. That's fine.

But I know a lot of FBI agents, former FBI agents, who did not stay around to retirement because they just didn't like the bullshit.

But what I find in today's FBI is, with the Gestapo raids and other stuff, is I find it actually astounding that more people haven't resigned, in mass, given where it's going here. And that really scares me, because if they're not willing to resign in mass, when you see them weaponize the justice system against the people, you're not far from a totalitarian state. And in this article, you wrote, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Russian philosopher who spent years in the Soviet gulag prison, said, human beings are born with different capabilities. If they are free, they are not equal. If they are equal, they are not free.

Exceptionally salient quote here, because this is all about keeping America free. And, just as I've talked about what happens in China and other spots, if you're all equal, you are not free. And where does the Democrat Party want to take us to, George? Where does it want to take us to? It wants to take us to a level of what they call equality, but they get to define it.

Isn't that true?

We are an American republic, a constitutional republic. That's where we should stay. We must stay there. We cannot allow these people to change the rules.

And in this, which was interesting, you talk in this article back in 2018 about Comey. Comey, to me, just highlights the lack of integrity, lack of decency, and the abrogation of one's oath in spades. Now, speak to us about Comey, Hillary, and Trump, and your thoughts, based on this article, in terms of what was going on at that time with Comey, and basically, why, even today, this really hasn't changed with the current leadership with Director Wray.

We know that Clinton has a trail of dead people behind him by suicide, fair enough, but they're still dead. And now we have the Untouchables, the Clintons, now the Obamas, and Comey, protecting them in their criminality by the fact that he's the director of the FBI. I was shocked that time he came on and did what the attorney general should have done if he exculpated Hillary Clinton's crimes as no reasonable DA would prosecute it. Yes, they're corrupt, and it's criminal, not necessarily for money. Biden is apparently the money lover, and so is Obama.

But, you know, you make money as you get it. But these people are political creatures, and they are communists, and they need to be removed and tried. There is the oath of office, and it has to be applied.

Comey gave her a get out of jail free card, which was just astounding to me and to so many people within our intelligence community. If I had done one of those things, or even slightly one of those things, I'd be in jail. And look at what they're doing to President Trump right now. They're persecuting and prosecuting him for having classified. Basically, he declassified, was keeping it because it highlights how they came after him.

But they wanted to get that back, so they raided his home and such. But he had this classified. He was president, and he could declassify anything else. Just like Jimmy Carter back in the old days. If you remember, Jimmy Carter started talking about spy satellites, and until the time he talked about it, it was classified at the top secret level.

The moment he talked about it in the news, it became unclassified, that we had classified top secret satellites flying around, spying on people. But he didn't have to sign anything. He didn't have to make a declaration. The fact that he stated it made it unclassified. But here you have Hillary Clinton, Comey, covering up a vast array of destruction of classified material and information, and gets away with it free.

And now they're persecuting and prosecuting President Trump for something that's extremely trivial compared to what Hillary Clinton did. And he was actually president. She's never been. So it just blows my mind in terms of how they get away with this here. Now, precursors to conflict, or has it already started?

This has come up recently in a lot of discussions across America here. Are we coming close to America's next civil war? Now, you wrote this article back again, also in 2018.. But you speak to America's civil war in the 1860s. Do you see civil war potentially coming to America here, based on where we're headed right now?

That's what it'll be. And, like I said, that the federal government will be there to stop everybody, because they're listening on every phone call. They're recording every stroke of a keyboard. They know what's going on, and they will take action to stop it, unless there's mass resignations. And that's not going to happen.

When I take a look at America today, they had a recent poll that showed that 69% of Americans think we're the greatest country in the world. That's up five to seven points from just a few years ago. That shows a unity. The second aspect is 70 plus percent of Americans think we're on the wrong path. That also tells me we're on the right aspect.

What's your final comment, George, before I go into closing here? Any final comment?

I can tell you right there, we watched you do it. I don't know how many drug cases just collapsed for the defendants. when you bring up a photograph. It was funny. It was funny.

You know, the tools that are given to you, you use them.

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