Megan Moroney: Cheating, Cowgirls, & Chaos [VIDEO]

just being an absolute menace. A man would look at me the wrong way and I'm like, blocked.

You are everywhere in the best way. You're so fucking talented. You deserve all the success and everything that has come your way. It's so cool to see a woman in your position rise so quickly, and it just all happened. Your new album is called Am I Okay?

So obviously I have to say, are you okay? How are we doing today, Megan? What is going on?

You call yourself an emo cowgirl. What does that mean? Can you explain it to us?

And you're perspective. But in the moment, it hurts.

So yeah, I mean, I grew up playing guitar with my dad and my brother. They taught me how to play guitar. I was a cheerleader in high school. I also did musical theater, though. So, like, you can imagine, the vibes were a little weird.

I'll be honest. Those don't go together. So yeah, I hurt my knee cheerleading, though. my junior year. I was in a wheelchair for two months.

I have like a gnarly scar on my knee.

I've always loved country music. So me and my dad would just sing together with, if my brother was in town, we do three part harmonies, which is fun. And I never thought that I would have a career out of it, though. It was always just for fun, because I, where I'm from, you, kind of do what your parents do. when you grow up, you know, and my mom was an accountant.

So I, I understood accounting. So I was like, maybe I'm supposed to be doing taxes. Um, I'll get to college and figure it out. So that was my mindset. So yeah, I feel like I had a very normal upbringing.

Um, music was only just like a side thing.

You had a normal life. So you're now like coming into this and like, it seems like you're just like a normal girl in the best way. that like, went to college and had pretty normal life experiences. You just mentioned your brother. I'm curious, growing up, like where your brother's super protective with.

Um, he is like this sweet angel. Like I could not ask for a better brother. So he was never like the brother. that was like cutting my boyfriends out. Um, but he's definitely protective.

I dated his best friend. That was my first.

So I, it was actually like really weird. looking back. I was in eighth grade and he was a, what is that? A sophomore going to be a junior. So I was about to be a sophomore or a freshman, though.

So, um, he was hot and on the baseball team and I started like, I don't even know how we started talking. I think we started texting or something. He became my first like serious boyfriend. We dated for two and a half years. He shattered my heart because when it was time for him to go to college, he like made up some lie and, like, broke up with me and I was distraught.

Like I had my, my mom had to sleep with me every night, or like a month. You know, what's crazy is like.

Like, yeah. And he was like chill in the house about it. Well, my brother is one of those.

He played baseball, so I played baseball. I wasn't on the softball team. I wanted to be like my brother. Um, so when he went to the university of Georgia and my brother's a smart one. Um, not that I'm not smart, but my brother is like, he'd never had to study for tests.

He graduated with like a 4.0.. I'm just like, like Miranda Lambert has a song that says my brother got the brains of the family. So I thought I'd learn to sing. And I'm like, I resonated with that lyric so hard as a young child, but I followed him to UGA. Yeah.

So when I was a freshman, he was a senior. Like he did my laundry. for me. It was a perfect scenario. I live in the dorms, which were crusty as hell.

He had a house, so we would have like.

So I feel like I was friends with everyone, but I didn't feel like.

If.

Not anymore. We're, we're recovered.

Um, gotta go.

Like I don't, and I was an athlete, so I don't understand sorority life whatsoever. You need to like walk me through being in Georgia and being in a sorority. I feel like that. it's like the creme de la creme of like crazy sorority life. Tell me everything.

Like what was the best?

Like I would go to what I had to go to, to not get fined. Wait,

First of all, what is, if you didn't go to chapter,

Um, but thank God I'm not studying for my test. This is awesome. What do you do at chapter? You sit there. I'm like, I.

honestly, I don't remember cause, I don't want to remember. Um, it wasn't as culty as people make it sound, but there were some like things where we'd all have to sing together. It was like only like once a month where you would like do the chants together. No, literally like, I'm not even kidding. We do a chant.

Come on. I don't remember it. Oh, I swear.

That's rush week and anything you see on Tik Tok that looks that insane is literally like the,

it is, it was an experience and I will say I wouldn't go back and change it. But like, once you're out of it, you're like, that is kind of crazy. Crazy. We paid to be in it. We paid a lot of money to be in it.

And if you didn't go to things, you get fined. But I did meet my best friend and um, I mean like my sorority had 300 girls in it, though. So you're not going to like everybody, obviously. Like. I think that's kind of what they portray is like, Oh my God, we're the best of friends.

If you're a Kappa Delta, then it's family. And while I don't disagree with that, but it's just like, it's hard to get 300 girls to get along. But I met my very best friend through that. Like my best friend, Natalie, we met the first day of rush and like we are inseparable. She lives in Nashville.

Like, and there's, like so many others that I met through Katie and, but it was definitely like being in a sorority in Georgia is exactly what you would think it is. What was your type in college? Like what guys you're going for? Oh my God. I'm just, that's not on purpose.

Um, but there's a through line.

Like I met it, kept going out of college. So in college, loved an athlete. Oh my God. Um, college or professional. Didn't care.

Oh my God. Megan, hold on. Rewind. Hold on. Okay.

So you.

So I had soccer, and Oh, hockey was like the main thing in Boston. Okay. The football boys, it was brief, though.

Yes.

It's like a right of passage. Can I be honest with you, though? He's my favorite ex. Really? Because he came around and apologized for his actions and was like, you know what?

I did treat you like shit. I was.

Speaking of that. Oh,

This was in college. Okay. Um, so I was like, what was that? And whatever lie he told, I believe them. Of course you're like, don't worry.

More evidence that, um, I, I was in a shower and I saw this like long piece of Brown hair on the wall of the shower. And I convinced myself that his hair, it was, I would convince myself that that strand of hair came off his head. Megan,

I think you look back at college and you're like, we were stupid. We were having fun and it was never that serious.

And you're like, it must be Brad's like, it must be like. gotta be the delusion. He would never do that to me. He loves me. He said he loves me.

This has to be his hair. It's the delusion. run so deep. We can't even be mad. It's like you are blinded until you get out.

Okay. What were you going to say?

No, I guess what's worse that I bought it. So it was my watch. The genius sitting across from me. I have never been more impressed. And you know what,

What? And I?

I'm like, and then she drove away. Hold on. You what? I sent.

Right. So, going to go through, I sent him the pictures, no caption, no, nothing. I just sent it to him. What are the pictures? Um, it's just texts.

where, if they're like late, like they went out and like, just like, Oh, your door's locked. Like that sort of stuff. So I send him that no reaction. He's calling me a million times. I don't answer.

I wait until he's done at his event and has to come home and deal with me. And where does he find me? All of my shit packed in my car and I'm laying by the pool lounging. Are you like, are you in a bikini? Can I preface this?

I was in college listening to call her.

right now. It's not good enough. No, you need to like relish in it. Just like, hi, babe. The crazy eyes.

Like, did you get my text?

Okay. This is what I'm talking about, though. Like being able to live life and go through college and be delusional, and dumb has made me the person I am.

To realize that, like, it's okay to be that dumb, because one day you will grow up.

So my mom would ask me why I was there. And then I have to get the mom involved. Oh, so I have a song called mom. I lied on my new record, which is not about the situation, because he's sweet angel. We love him as a different guy, but he's a sweet angel.

We love him now. at the time. Okay. We were mad at him for all of your exes. You love the Snapchat.

I take it back.

Did you unpack the?

And the wrath of like her to protect me. I need to like live in the delusion just a little bit longer.

This feels perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that was college.

And what are we doing? This is like sophomore junior. That was sophomore ish. I believe. Okay.

Okay. Um, did you ever like the same guy as any of your sorority sisters or no, you were like, you were out in the field, and they were with.

I did the same exact thing. Actually, is it a better way to go about it? It's absolutely not. It's actually makes them be 10 times shadier, but it seems fun. Okay.

What professional sports were we dabbling with in college, sweetie? Can I play the?

Okay. All of that is cut. Daddy, I'm sorry. I just blue balled you, but we do know a similar athlete, and it is not slim shady. He doesn't play that sport.

No. Yeah. I think he's like a neurotic sociopath. I wouldn't put it past. Okay.

Okay. I need to hear the story afterwards because of girl. Um, okay. We need to talk about college, because I think, like we were just talking about, you are having a normal life and all of a sudden, in college, your life changes. And, like from what I was doing my research on, and I want you to tell the whole story, like, this wasn't a planned thing, right?

This kind of just happened that all of a sudden your career took off. Tell.

I was just singing country songs with my family. So everyone was like, that's her. And so, for one of our plant free events, we hired John Langston, which he's a country artist. And we use all of our budget on him. So we didn't have money for an opener, but they were like, Megan is the country singer.

She can surely get up there and entertain people for 20 minutes before John Langston comes on. So me, my dad and my brother played that gig. We played three cover songs. I think it was like two Miranda Lambert songs and one Casey Musgraves song. And at that show, Chase Rice is there.

So of course he was at the sorority, right? Of course. Of course, Chase. Of course. Shout out, Chase.

He saw me perform there and was like, I have a show at the Georgia theater next month. that isn't sold out. If you bring all of these hot girls to the Georgia theater, you can open for me first of three. The only condition is that you write your own song, because I don't want you to perform covers. That's weird.

And so I wrote one song to be able to do that and the rest were covers. So I had 30 minutes. And ever since I played that show, it completely changed everything. And I was like, this is what I want to do with my life. I don't know how I'm going to make this happen, but we're going to do it.

So I was very focused on schoolwork. So I really didn't write that much in college. I really didn't start writing, writing all the time until COVID. So even in college, I was getting gigs and I was playing at the local restaurant for tips and literally for 10 people. But it wasn't like, oh, she's doing it, because it was also like, well, there's 10 people here and they're all your.

So I feel like I've always had that kind of empowering, confident vibe to my songwriting. And then, my junior year, I feel like I wrote, I got my heart broken pretty bad. And I started writing songs for like therapeutic purposes. And it was like, ever since then, it's just been easy. Like I started, I learned how to write by myself.

And I always tell young songwriters, like, if there's anything you need to do, it's learn to write by yourself, because you know, you have a point of view, you know what you want to say. And if you can sit down and finish a song, then, like, you've got it. Well, that's what I was going to say is like,

That sounds so dramatic. But, like I said, I'm, I'm very sensitive. And I guess you could say dramatic. So what I've created in my head is always so much better and hard to let go of than what actually happened. Like with the guys that I've truly dated, like we see it through till we, like, you, know what I mean?

Like, by the time. it's like we're done. We're handshaking, like peace. But it's, it's the guys I feel like that have broken my heart. the most are the ones that, like, I never even, like, officially dated.

It's like the situationships.

I actually kind of understand, when you're like the college guys, that you, that you were like, I love him. Like he's great. Yeah. Because you lived a whole like experience with him. And it was like, it was time to move on the situationships where you're like, are we something?

Are we not? I feel like, I feel like your wife one day and then I feel like trash the next day. It's a motherfucking mindfuck. Are you someone that, like, can immediately get over someone, though? Or are you like on someone for a while?

I feel like.

Like, and then it's like, I don't have time for any of that now, though. So I.

Alex, there are times where my friends have scolded me and I've been like, I'm like, no, the content we are going to get from this.

Cause I was like, God, this is going to be a good episode. At least we're getting to like. put it somewhere where, like a lot of times, you hear girls be like doing it for the plot, but our plot turns into a song or an episode. that, like, is entertaining and fun and can help people. So you know what?

We can be the vessel of heartbreak and we can just keep going through it and then people are going to feel better about their lives. So I don't judge you. I hope you know I've done it too. So I was asking cause I was like, Oh, I wonder if she's like me. where we just like stay in things like that.

There will be times.

Give me a hint.

You were going through it. Um, yeah,

You're not done.

Do you believe in this? Like the classic saying in order to get over someone,

you should go to therapy.

You're like actually therapy. You're like what I know in my brain is.

Like it can go, it maybe works out, but I feel like for the most part it doesn't. And for me, like when I go to therapy and then I tell my therapist how I'm getting treated,

And I'm like, of course he said he was sorry. Dude, that is humbling. Okay. So now I agree, though. Like, it's very rare if you're moving on from someone, that you can find someone that will actually make you forget about the person that you're hung up on.

That's fucking rare. Like I maybe in my life have had it once.

Okay.

Did you get cheated on by another?

So, um, I can't remember if it was, I guess I had a boyfriend during COVID. that doesn't count. Um, it was like a long distance thing. that was just like really stupid, um, to try to date someone long distance during COVID. I don't know.

No, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. But after that, um, I dated a guy in Nashville and well, actually we weren't officially dating. Um, those are the worst. And, like, I know, I'm saying the story and everyone's going to think it's about someone, but I'm just going to say that it's not.

it's not him. This is not this story. This is someone that's good for the next story. Okay. Perfect.

Um, but this right now is not about him. I dated some guy. He had a whole girlfriend the whole time I was with him. every single day. He had a girlfriend.

He wasn't just cheating. The trust issues that are coming out of this episode. Dude. And like, I could not believe it. He was, he was like low key insane, though.

Like when I first met him, he called my friends into the bathroom. I was crying about the feelings he had for me. Like there was something not right up here. Um, and that's who sleep on my side. So I have a song called Ashley and you sleep with.

Hey girl. And she's like, I think you're talking to my boyfriend. And I was like, boyfriend. Um, and then I can say like, once I cut things off with him, I immediately cut things off. Cause I was like, that is insane.

I'm with you every single day and you have a girlfriend, like a whole girlfriend, not even just, and they've been dating for like years. I, I can't, I, men. So did you confront him? Oh, of course. Yeah.

I was like, literally never speak to me again. I know we're not, I know we're not together, but we're breaking up.

Um, so this man, this man, sends me flowers. The girl is trying to get information out of me. Like, I think you're being crazy. Like. he's not actually with you.

And I'm like, girl, he, I'm, I'm telling you, girl to girl. He sent me flowers. She was like, no, he didn't. He would not do that. He just said he didn't send you flowers.

And I was like, and this guy, like I took, he met my family, not on purpose, but just because there was a wedding during new year's and I needed a date. It wasn't on purpose, but, like, he like, accidentally met my whole family. So it, like, wasn't just casual. And he had a whole.

You need to run. I think that I like see her on my for you page sometime. I think. since then she has moved on. I thought you were gonna say they're married.

I'm like, it's a classic. It's a classic. Damn. Okay. But yeah, that was a situation.

And that was another thing where, like, looking back, I was like, he cried to my friends about liking me so much. I think screws were loose. It's some sort of manipulation thing. I'm not sure what's going.

Okay. So Megan,

did you date Morgan? Never exclusively.

Yeah. And goodbye. Okay. Oh my God. Thank you so much.

It's been so much fun. And goodbye everyone. Let's go talk off camera. Okay. Interesting.

Not exclusively. So you, I think it's obvious. And that's why, like, I do appreciate you being honest, because, like,

Fair, fair, fair, fair. Okay. You.

I will. Here's what I'll tell you, though, because I haven't told anyone this ever. Here we go. Um, so him and I met in 2020.. Okay.

John Langston actually introduced us. Um, and I, so I was a senior in college. COVID hadn't happened yet. His dangerous album wasn't even out yet. So we were friends for a long time.

So we, it's what? 2024, that was 2020.. Yep. So we're friends. for a long time.

We were not just friends, and now we're friends.

I love that answer. Okay.

You think? Yeah. So you kind of just like maneuvered around? Well, yeah, it was not like, like. I said, we weren't exclusively dating ever.

Okay. And I think both of our schedules, like we have insane, like when we try to hang out, it's like, okay, we have this one day of the whole month where we're both maybe in town, and then someone's got something going on. It was like that sort of thing. Um, but him and I are friends. I think that's great.

Obviously,

How is single life? I love it. I sleep.

Okay. And I can just really like, enjoy being in the moment. I feel like, like I said, I'm very sensitive. So when I do date someone, like if we're having problems or whatever it may be, it really does affect me. Like I'm the someone where, like, you can, my mood immediately is affected.

So that's why I like a song, like. I have a song called hell of a show. And it was like really hard, because I would literally cry, cry before I went on stage, I would perform and then I would go cry myself to sleep. And it's like, that was very difficult for me. So it's, I'm way happier single.

for now, at least, I feel like everything is so new still. So I'm enjoying not having to worry about that part of things. I feel like that was something that I appreciated.

Like when you are on stage and you've been crying, like up until you literally get shoved out there. Are those.

It's like, I can't believe that I'm letting him take away from this moment. So I feel like it's tough because, like those moments right before you go on stage, you're literally like, holy shit, I was just crying. And like, I want to die right now. But there's like people that are chanting my name and I gotta put it on. But while it's happening, it's like, I'm just grateful anytime I can be on stage because I feel the love for my fans.

And it's almost like a reminder of like someone one day is going to appreciate me and isn't going to treat me like shit. And we'll make these moments like they will be here for.

You're so incredible. You're so smart. Like you're funny, like even sitting with you. now. I'm like, I feel like we're friends.

Like you're a great time. Like the right person will come. And those type of moments, as hard as they are, right before. it's like it puts in perspective, like you're going to be fine. Right.

Have you figured out, like if I was to put all of your exes in a lineup, like do you have a type personality? wise looks, wise? Like what?

You're like, I was falling asleep at dinner, Alex. Let's put it that way. And yeah, I just, I love humor. That'll get me. That'll get me real quick.

Like what happened with some of my exes. is that like? I would be so mad at them and they would know that humor is my weakness. So all they had to do was make me laugh. And then I'm like, we're so bad.

I think humor is number one. I also realized, like I want a guy, I realized that ego, like I'm older now too. And my last relationship, like real relationship, I would say was like one of my first real adult relationships. And I don't, I can't deal with any sort of ego. I felt like I wasn't being like, supported.

So that was like, like you didn't want to listen to my music. Um, I'm sorry. I didn't know about his job. Wait, hold on. So, through therapy, I'm realizing that that's an ego thing.

And I'm like, Oh, we can't do that. Hold on. First of all,

He didn't want to hear your fucking perfect voice. Um, well, there was like a time.

I easily get blinded by abs and height. I've done a lot of dumb shit for like six, five.

He, just like, takes off his shirt and you're like, we're back. Um, so yeah. Height too. But like I, I really, I think, as far as like, I'm not looking for a relationship, but if I was to be looking for someone, I think they would have to be funny, supportive. Um, and I think those are like the.

Cause, like I said, I will be a dead horse till it's especially dead.

Um, and he was like, oh my God, that's so great. Congrats. And then it's like, oh my God, I have a crazy day at work. Like just immediately, immediately. Yeah.

Not like, oh my God, babe,

So, um, I feel like. that's why dating right now is just like really hard. Cause I don't want to let up on my career. I feel like I'm all in it right now. And I'm so much enjoying it.

And I told my therapist, I was like, am I being crazy? And she was like, you're 26.. Why would you not be all in, in your career?

I'm so motivated and I want to push myself. And then I promise you it's once you just like, get in that mindset, the right person will come along that, like, you're so good in what you're doing and you're so not willing to waiver and like have a couple months where you get swept off your feet and you're not focused. That person will come in, because no one else will be able to get in at one point because you're so locked in yourself. And that's when you're going to find someone that you're like, Oh fuck. Like there he is cheering me on.

And then he will probably have his own shit. I think it's important for people. And it doesn't mean career, like whatever fulfills someone, you have to have your own shit, to feel confident in yourself, to actually look at someone like you and be like, I am only happy for you. There's no jealousy. There's no like ego issue where I'm feeling like I have to like Trump you.

And that is when you're like, God bless. Hold on therapy. When did you get in therapy?

He kept saying that to me. I think I would come in with like crazy ass stories and he'd be like, you need therapists. Great song, but, like, I know, like we're so happy. We love this song. You need therapy.

And he kept saying it and I kept not doing it. And so he contacted my manager and they booked the appointment for me. So I basically forced me to go. And I think that's the only way I was going to go, though. Um, and I really got into it as like maintenance, because, like I said, I lived like 22,, 23, very normal years of my life.

And to suddenly be, you know, shot up into the spotlight, it, that's why I needed therapy. Cause I'm like, I didn't know how to handle. It's just like having everyone talk about you is like the most terrifying, or was the most terrifying thing ever. Um, and yeah, I mean like all of the Tennessee orange interviews were like my first interviews as an artist. So I was like scarred.

I haven't done like a proper podcast, um, since, like my career took off because of that. Cause, I was so terrified of interviews, because I was like, that's all they wanted to talk about. And I get it, of course, but I was like terrified.

Like, that's odd, but that's also what comes with it. And so, like, I think you're doing an incredible job. Like, I think you seem like you're super grounded, but I agree. I think, like getting into therapy is important for me. Even I remember being like, all these people are talking about me, and like, whether it was people saying something that wasn't true about me or saying something that was true, but like I wanted to defend myself or I didn't, I didn't know, like it's endless and you kind of don't know how to handle it, and you can do it any way you want.

It's just a dance, because most of the time it isn't going to fully portray you as a whole human being. It's like quick little things people see on the internet. And I can imagine you're like, I have more to give than Tennessee orange. Like I have, but that's all that people cared about in the moment. It probably felt like to you, but it's like you're growing and you're changing and you're learning and like, you've gotten fucking incredible music.

So yeah.

Like, it goes a long way to like, keep yourself in check and be like, not an egomaniac. And like, how do your parents and your family feel about all of your success?

They're just like, when did this happen? And they're just their neighbors will come up to them where they live in Savannah. And they're, like, my mom's, like, Oh yeah, that's our daughter. Like just telling my whole life story. I'm like, Oh God, maybe we should do some PR training.

Mom, shut up, mom. But they're definitely not used to it, which I feel like I'm still getting used to it too, but they're especially like, what the heck? Even like on this, my mom's like, tell Alex. I said, hi. We need to tell her to go selfie.

after this. We're going to.

to figure it out.

Okay. Do you typically make the first move or do you wait for the guy to? I wait for the guy. Oh, okay. You've never made the first move.

Are people still fucking asking you that? They are. They are. And one guy asked me, once. I said I don't have a Snapchat, he asked again and I was like, babe,

also. I know. I was like, at what age do we stop? Do we stop? Now.

Now. 26,, you stop. Okay. What is your best and worst quality in a relationship?

Let me think. No, it's okay. If that's it, hype yourself up. I'm like, yes, bitch. Order in a steak dinner.

You're fine. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. I mean, I'm loyal.

I think.

My last one actually deleted his entire Instagram. What? Why were people finding him? I'm not sure. That's none of my business.

why he did that.

I, he had done something like over and over that I had asked him to just be more conscious of. What? He had a girl, best friend.

And okay. I get girl best friends from childhood because you probably hooked up in high school and it was really weird. And you're like, we're never going to do that again. Okay. That's actually fair.

This was like two year best girl, best friend. And all I asked was if you're going to, if y'all, cause I had felt weird, a little weird about it. Of course. And I was just like, whenever y'all are together, just like send me a text. Let me know.

Because something had happened when I was in Australia, where I was having to track him. It's like a long thing. So I took him back after that. Like I'm saying, I got better. I never got better.

I'm such a simp.

no, I'm literally lover, girl, simp. Like one thing about me, I'll give you 8,000 chances for you to show me that you're not the one. Um, but anyways, this had to do with a girl, best friend. All I wanted to know, I somehow was like, it's fine, because I did believe she's nice girl. I just was like, can you please just let me know when y'all are together.

Once I found out once again, he did not let me know that they were together. And so we were perfectly fine. Like we were doing better. He does that calls me and I was like, yeah, it's just like that. I can't do this anymore.

I'm like, right. Cause you're becoming crazy. Yeah. I become crazy. I'm like, it happened when it started in Australia.

I was like, I'm across the world. right now. It's a different day and I'm tracking your ass. Like I don't have time for this. Like I'm, I'm about to go perform for 25,000 people at this festival.

And like, I'm worried about your damn location.

I also got chills, though. When you're like 25,000 people and I'm fucking tracking your ass. Like it puts it in perspective, like these boys, these boys, just a girl. No, dude, that is fucked. And let me tell you what makes me mad is many things.

What the fuck is wrong with you just being so chill and open, being like, just let me know when you're hanging out. That's all you ask. You didn't say you, you're not being controlling. Like you are not allowed to hang out after the sixth time. I would then be like, I don't feel comfortable anymore, but you're being so chill and open and he can't do you the decency.

So then, naturally, any fucking human being, if you tell someone to just tell you when they're doing it and they don't, you're being shady. So what's happening when you're hanging out that you don't want me?

So it honestly ended.

amicably. I don't know why I deleted his Instagram.

I love how you keep flip-flopping. You're like,

Yeah. There was a fire over on that side of the country, but it's fine. I'm insane, I guess. No, it's totally fine. You know what?

I think it's like you acknowledging all of this. It's like, you're recognizing patterns and you're seeing it. Half the people that come in here, sometimes I'm like, wait, you realize that you're completely aware of what you're doing. And I think it's awesome that you're now like, and I have a standard now because I'm working my ass off. Your new album, I just have to say, it's so incredible to see you put something out that is so personal.

And also I feel like everyone, like I said, everyone can relate. I'm listening to these things like, yes. Oh, my God, this has happened to me before. I appreciate it. What is the inspiration?

Like when you sat down to even start conceptualizing this album, what was the inspiration? Literally, in my personal life,

It's almost like it didn't even happen to me. You know what I mean? And I don't know.

Same as all of my songs. I literally shout out to everyone who inspired the album.

I'll ask people like either what is your favorite song or what is, for you, the most meaningful song? And I know that's hard, but then they're going to go stream it. So what is the most, in your opinion, like meaningful song to you on this album? Meaningful? I would say Heaven by Noon.

Yeah. Can you like tell us a little bit about that writing process?

And that song was kind of written with my aunt in mind.

And I just can't imagine having that happen to you, and it happened to a family member. And I know that music is very healing. So I'm happy that I wrote that song and I'm happy that it's out in the world. And I know I was only four years old when that happened, but the way it's affected my family like forever and will always affect my family. I just had never written a song about loss and I think that it was important to write.

And yeah, we all miss my uncle Dennis.

And I think that's what's so beautiful about songwriting and what you're doing is everyone's going to find their own angle in, but everyone's going to find an angle in, because that is life. That is loss, is life. You know what I mean? It's like everyone goes through it and everyone has their own experience with it, but like that is so powerful that you're someone that's now putting out a piece of work that, like people, in a beautiful way, are going to cry to and slowly heal from. I think that's like incredible.

It's amazing. It's literally amazing.

and now we're sitting here. Like. I feel like people at home, this is the story people fucking love. It's like literally anyone watching this right now, your life could change overnight. And I think that's why, like going after what you love and doing what you love, like, don't let anyone fucking make you feel small, especially a little fucking dick.

that's like, I don't care about your fucking awards. Like, well, you should. And if you don't.

No, thank.

what has also been so fun about this show is like growing with the audience and being like, for sure we can be toxic as fuck. And there is no one better at literally. And I personally think you have to be.

There's a time.

Okay. Last question for anyone who is getting to know you today and is becoming a bigger fan. What do you hope they take away from this interview?

I feel like it's hard. I try to let people get to know me, you know, on the internet and at my shows, but I feel like this is the first time I've like sat down after everything has happened. So I feel like this is, everyone feels like they know me better and maybe find a song they like. I feel like I know you.

I'm so happy we got to meet and hang out. I love you. I love you too.