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A woman known as Dia, whose estate is worth millions of dollars.

I'm Lucy Sheriff.

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targets in the past.

Absolutely.

He was special.

like there's a romantic feeling when you're describing him.

I liked his personality.

Whoever, like, say to me about Vladimir that, oh, he's a killer, he's a murderer, he's a

criminal.

But I've seen by myself, like, how he, he was so respectful to other people and, like,

just honest.

He was justice.

for rejecting her commander's advances, she's constantly told me that she didn't want to

live anymore.

But suddenly, she's stopped saying this.

Now, she seems to want to live.

The problem is that she's finally found her happiness on the wrong side of the law.

It kind of sounds like, to me, like you're getting lost in the role.

of them, they were armed, and they have a lot of cash in their pockets, and a big black

car with this, like, crazy loud music.

And I felt I'm, like, in a movie.

I live another life which I never had before, and I never even knew that this life may possibly

exist.

I'm sorry, I had to do it, that I'd go on my own.

You didn't guess that behind, I was loading my gun.

I got you, I tear you apart, I had to kill you.

Cause it's so much fun.

I stand up slowly so he wouldn't wake up.

I didn't go downstairs because I didn't know exactly where these guys were sleeping.

But upstairs on the second floor, there were...

She was now at the home of her target Vladimir, who had just fallen asleep.

This gave her the opportunity to search his home and discover any potential evidence that

could take down the drug trafficking and extortion gang that Vladimir was running.

It also gave her a very good opportunity to get caught.

One room was just bedroom.

I quickly checked the wardrobe and everything.

It was just empty bedroom.

And I opened the door of another room and I saw like sofa and a big wardrobe.

Near to the wardrobe, there were like huge black trash bags.

So I walked and I slowly opened it and I saw that it was full of cash.

Lots of lots of money in these black trash bags.

I've never seen anything like that.

I was shocked.

And then I opened the wardrobe and I saw automatic Kalashnikov guns just like in the line.

And I saw some TT guns as well.

And I kind of like even got jealous because it was expensive.

And the aim is just perfect.

It's a perfect gun.

I walked outside and I went to the door which was on the corner.

And I opened the door and it was kind of like an office because it was a table there.

A big map on the wall.

And I saw there was like some little pins on the map of the city.

There's a lot of papers on the table.

Aliyah decided to return to Vladimir's room.

However, as she's about to walk inside, Vladimir opened the door.

And he he said like, where have you been?

I woke up and you were not in the bedroom.

I said like, I'm so thirsty, I don't know where to find water.

He said, oh, I'll bring you, don't worry.

Go to bed, it's fine.

And I was thinking, oh my god, he almost caught me.

If he would walk around the house and see me in that different like doors checking everything,

he could kill me that moment straight away.

I didn't sleep at all, all night.

I was thinking about what I'm doing next.

And what should I report exactly to my commander?

that there was some evidentiary benefit to spending more time in Vladimir's home.

In order to help ensure that she'd be invited back,

that morning she tried one last seduction gambit.

In her bag, she had a small vial of a perfume

that she'd learned to formulate in her seduction training.

So every time he would go to his pillow and sleep there,

he will remember me, like remember my smell.

And I said to him, well, I have to go home because I have to study

and my lesson starts very soon.

And I walked outside and then his security drove me home.

I came back home and I called to Sasha.

I just said that, listen, we need to meet

and I will explain everything in person.

In case she was being followed,

she walked to the university campus where she claimed to be studying.

There, she waited for her colleague in the FSKN, Sasha, to arrive.

They met at a table in the student common area

and she filled them in on her progress the night before.

if he would caught you like in the night,

do you understand what he would do to you?

I said, like, I know.

And he's like, please be careful.

Don't do this again.

Listen, for now, just try to be close to him as you can.

Listen to his conversations.

Listen to his telephone calls.

And he said that you should start to bring more information

about next places of hearing supplies.

I said, okay, I'll do my best,

but just in the beginning, give me some time.

And I went back through the university

and then I returned to my house.

So just in case, I tried to make it look like I was really a student there.

how are you, beautiful?

I'm thinking about you.

Well, I knew that he was thinking about me because the smell was there.

but she said she needed to stay home and get her homework done.

because in this case, I show him that I'm not so desperate

about our communication and so needy.

He said that the team had decided

that she should try to get photos of the map and papers she'd seen.

which I could put to my purse.

And he brought me a wire as well.

The wire which you basically put into the room

and you can hear it on the distance.

And I had to put this device somewhere where people would hang out the most.

So I thought that it would be better to put this device into the dining kitchen area

rather than to his office.

as a way to get some alone time in the kitchen and plant the bug.

you need to cook for him.

And I got some potatoes, some tomatoes, I got some meat.

Then the driver came and I brought the bag with the food with me.

And they were finishing some conversations while I was cooking.

So I searched the kitchen very well.

I only found a good place which was underneath the vase.

There was no flowers or something, but there were like some kind of like decoration.

So I put this device inside in the vase, like in the very bottom.

And then I put back this decoration.

And then the next task was to photograph all the important papers in his office.

I served the table and I call everybody and say like, the food is served.

And while they were eating, I was standing and just like looking at them and thinking,

okay, so if they eat it, so they trust me that I wouldn't poison them.

On the way, she asked for a tour of the house.

He even showed me the room where I saw these like bags of cash,

but they were not there anymore.

And then he said like, this is my office.

He didn't open it.

And I said like, I would love to see the place where you work.

And I would love to learn more about you.

He opened the door and then I said like, oh, that's where like the whole magic happens.

And I said, oh, wow, this table is so solid.

Do you think it can handle us both?

He's like, what do you mean?

And I started to kiss him.

And then I went into the position where he can take me from behind

where I was leaning at the table.

So in this case, I could see the map and I could see exactly where it was.

And it wasn't too dark.

So I could read numbers, streets, names on the papers.

And when he was taking me from behind, I was looking at the table

and like just trying to read these names on it and what exactly was there.

I couldn't remember everything, but I remembered some names.

Shortly afterward, she walked to the university in case she was being watched

and waited for a colleague, Sasha, to arrive.

And then we'll give you more like details.

And he asked me for pictures, which I didn't do.

And I told him like, listen, I didn't do it because it was not possible that time,

but I'll do it later.

But for now, I gave him names and I gave him addresses.

These properties were in the exact same area that Aliya had seen

on her first horrible mission with the FSKN.

He said it's exactly where we were like having our operation.

Exactly in some houses there, we saw all these overdosed young kids and teenagers.

And there were the places where were sex slavery,

prostitution basically, where also they sold some heroins.

At Vladimir's map, there were like three pins in that area.

was complicit in the horrible things she'd seen,

even if he was just taking protection money from the traffickers.

And I knew I was doing this for my job, my mission, my country,

for those kids who were killed and overdosed and kidnapped for human trafficking.

I knew all that.

I just wanted to,

I wanted to succeed in my mission,

but at the same time, I just wanted to understand,

is he really so much deeply involved in that?

it was important to get the photos he'd asked for of all the documents in Vladimir's office.

When Aliya explained that she was worried that Vladimir would wake up

and find her there, Sasha came up with this solution.

like really, really deep.

And I said to him, like, so how are we supposed to do it?

And he said, like, just give him, just give him some sleeping pills.

And I was like, okay, which one?

He said, like, I'll, next time I'll give you some good sleeping pills.

It's just like kills you for like 10 hours straight.

A backpack that contained a bomb.

While the authorities focused on the wrong suspect,

a serial bomber planned his next attacks.

Two abortion clinics and a lesbian bar.

But this isn't his story.

It's a human story, one that I've become entangled with.

forced to explore the gray areas between right and wrong, life and death.

Their once ordinary lives, and mine, changed forever.

and ugly reckoning with a growing threat.

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five women disappeared in the span of just a few months.

Eventually, I found out what happened to the women.

All except one.

A woman named Lydia Abrams, known as Dia.

Her friends and family ran through endless theories.

Was she hurt hiking?

Did she run away?

Had she been kidnapped?

I'm Lucy Sheriff.

I've been reporting this story for four years,

and I've uncovered a tangled web of manipulation, estranged families, and greed.

Everyone, it seems, has a different version of events.

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Two Friends.

I would immediately have heat on me.

trained in chemical and radiological weapons response.

I'll explain why in a second.

But first, let's listen a little more.

and they're going to do what's called a geofence,

and they're going to look at what cell phones were in that little area at the time.

So they're going to nail me.

But if you have a drunken interaction with a guy outside a bar,

and he shoves you or coughs on you or smears something on you,

like, gross, that guy's hand was wet, and you don't think anything of it,

and then you don't feel sick for 48 hours,

and you don't get really sick for 72 more hours after that,

you're not going to immediately say,

hey, I bet that strange guy that bumped into me outside the restaurant poisoned me.

So it's a way for the spy to get in the country, do that,

and then they go to the airport, you know, decon themselves,

take an antidote if there's one needed.

and about so-called truth serums.

So I decided to speak to a few experts to get a better understanding

of one of the most sinister aspects of Russian intelligence.

It's deadly use of chemical compounds to silence its enemies around the world.

Why does this seem to be such a common Russian state security tactic

that it's in the news all the time?

between you and the victim before there's a body involved.

It's a cheap way to do it, and it's also terrifying.

If you're actively speaking out against Putin,

and you start to get a tummy ache, you're like, is this it?

Am I dying?

It's a psychological warfare aspect to it,

and it's cheaper than a predator drone with a satellite-guided missile.

that Matt Tipton is talking about, this is journalist Amy Knight,

author of several books critical of the Putin regime,

most recently, The Kremlin's Noose.

and I was terribly, terribly critical of Mr. Putin.

At some point, the Russian embassy phoned up The Globe and Mail

and said that they were going to kick their journalist

who was in Moscow out of the country,

and they were going to do all sorts of repercussions

if Amy Knight didn't stop writing about Putin.

But before that, while she was in Moscow,

something strange happened to her that she still wonders about.

I spoke with him.

I had lunch with my research assistant,

who was Russian, at the hotel.

And about three hours later, I got so violently ill

that I just couldn't do anything.

Just, you know, terrible stomach issues.

And I was able to get myself on the plane a couple days later,

but that stomach thing took a long time to go away.

And they couldn't figure out why I, you know,

had this terrible stomach thing.

And I was thinking to myself that, you know,

unlikely that it was like standard food poisoning

in a very upmarket hotel like the Marriott

with lots of foreign tourists.

And after that, I wondered whether somebody had

slipped something into my food,

not to kill me, but to warn me.

a specific political target.

It also creates fear and uncertainty

in every other enemy and potential enemy.

because it's speculative.

And, you know, it could have just been bad luck.

But I do wonder.

for political ends, taking down kings, emperors,

religious leaders, and philosophers.

But why, I asked journalist Amy Knight,

does Russia seem to employ this method

more than any other country in modern times?

If you want to assassinate someone,

either within the country or abroad.

The Russians started way back when in the Soviet period

what they called a secret poison lab.

They have a technical expertise that has continued

and been passed on.

And the original poison lab was set up

under Stalin's secret police.

And it continued on through the KGB.

And now, of course, there are secret laboratories

that belong to the FSB.

has taken an even more bizarre turn.

A Russian agent sent to tail opposition leader Navalny

has accidentally revealed how he was poisoned in August.

The agent, a member of an elite toxins team

in Russia's FSB security service,

said the lethal nerve agent Novichok

was planted in Navalny's underwear.

You heard that right.

to an actual poisoning is Dr. Yuri Felshtinsky.

We'll get into that exact story in the next episode.

But for now, I called Dr. Felshtinsky,

a leading Russian historian and author,

to better understand why literally part

of the core curriculum for an FSB agent

is learning the use and concealment of poisons.

Number one, and this is extremely important,

it gives you time to escape.

And for example, if we take recent poisonings,

in case of Litvinenko, who was poisoned,

and in case of Skripal, who was poisoned.

who were poisoned in England for betraying Putin.

One survived, along with his daughter,

who was also poisoned.

The other didn't.

to escape back to Russia.

While, for example, Mr. Krasikov,

who killed a Chechen military leader in Berlin

in the middle of the day using a gun,

was arrested.

Or those people who killed former president

of the Chechen Republic, Zelimkhan Yendarbeev,

in Qatar, using bomb,

they successfully killed him,

but they were arrested.

So you see, this is the advantage,

when you poison a person.

But number two, it is not always known

that the person is poisoned.

We know some, of course, in some cases.

But in some other cases, who knows?

Maybe we even do not know

why the person was found dead.

And there are some questionable deaths

in London as well,

where we still do not know

why the person actually left his life

and was found dead.

So this is the advantage,

and that's why they're using it successfully.

not to mention shootings and bombings,

and we didn't even mention the Putin critic

who fell to his death out of a hotel window,

I tell Dr. Felshtinsky

that this is a lot of assassinations.

His answer, to my surprise,

is to explain to me that it's the law.

which allowed Russian special services

to kill enemies of the state abroad.

how the Russian government determines

whether someone should be assassinated

without a trial,

or arrested and put on trial.

And here's his answer.

The first case is when the person

commits treason from the point of view

of the government.

And this is a case of both Litvinenko

and Skripal, for example.

The same was true about that helicopter pilot

who was recently killed in Spain.

Prior to this, he defected to Ukraine

with his helicopter.

Case number two,

when people are competing for power

against Putin.

And in these cases,

they kill preventively.

And this is an order of, for example,

Boris Nemtsov, who was killed

right at the walls of the Kremlin.

And the same is true, of course,

about Alexei Navalny, who was killed

because he was competing

for presidential power.

And the third case, I think,

when it's connected to big money.

Then we're probably going back

to the mafia aspect of political life

in Russia.

But yes, when big money is involved,

we see usually some killings.

is a deadly world that operates

by its own rules,

which sound a lot closer

to the code of the Vory, the mafia,

than that of an elected government.

Even Aliyah, who was working

on what she felt was the right side

of the law, had already been involved

in a possible poisoning.

We'll go deeper into Russia's poison factory

next episode.

But for now, let's return

to Aliyah's experiences

with these chemical agents.

at the 1996 Centennial Olympic Games.

A backpack that contained a bomb.

While the authorities focused

on the wrong suspect,

a serial bomber planned

his next attacks.

Two abortion clinics

and a lesbian bar.

But this isn't his story.

It's a human story.

One that I've become entangled with.

basically someone bleeding out.

were left to pick up the pieces.

Forced to explore the gray areas

between right and wrong.

Life and death.

Their once ordinary lives,

and mine, changed forever.

of pending doom.

our country found itself

facing down a long and ugly reckoning

with a growing threat.

Far-right, homegrown,

religious terrorism.

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or wherever you get your podcasts.

in the small mountain town

of Idlewild, California,

five women disappeared

in the span of just a few months.

Eventually, I found out

what happened to the women.

All except one.

A woman named Lydia Abrams,

known as Dia.

Her friends and family

ran through endless theories.

Was she hurt hiking?

Did she run away?

Had she been kidnapped?

I'm Lucy Sheriff.

I've been reporting this story

for four years,

and I've uncovered

a tangled web of manipulation,

estranged families, and greed.

Everyone, it seems,

has a different version of events.

Hear the story on Where's Dia,

my new podcast

from Pushkin Industries

and iHeart Podcasts.

Listen on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you listen to podcasts.

to administer sleeping pills

to her target Vladimir.

She agreed to the mission,

but first asked for more time

to build trust

with Vladimir and his gang

before taking the risk

and potentially blowing the operation.

After all,

the FSB agents who poisoned Navalny

had supposedly been following him

for years.

I need more time to just, like,

literally become his right hand.

And I would need, like,

at least a month to do that.

He said, like, well, you have time

as long as you give us places

of their distribution.

There is, like, one technique

which agents use sometimes

when they try to infiltrate,

like, you know, big circles.

The technique calls, like, shadow.

So in this technique,

I had to be really invisible

for everyone.

But if, like, Vladimir needs something,

I'm there,

always ready to do what he wants.

So I had to make myself

to be like a shadow of Vladimir.

So everybody would start to feel

that, okay, so where is Vladimir,

there's his girl.

with Vladimir and his fellow gang members,

there was one person

she couldn't win over.

Vladimir's old friend,

the gangster who was always looking

at her in the club

with cold, dispassionate eyes.

NLP techniques and everything.

For me, it was super difficult

to establish connection with him.

I just couldn't.

And he was always remaining silent.

And he always gave me this

very kind of, like,

disgusting feeling.

And then through the conversation,

I understood that

he was the one who was controlling

the whole distribution,

all these tones of heroines

coming from Afghanistan

to Russia at that time.

and Aliyah and Vladimir began

to go on proper dates

and even take short trips together,

he began to trust her

and open up more.

Eventually, Aliyah was able

to find out more

about this silent, ominous friend.

but he opened up

and he told me his story.

So he was sent to Afghanistan war.

And it was a moment

where he met this guy

with shark eyes,

this cold guy.

And apparently,

they were in the same troop

and that's how they met.

And he said to me

that I trust him so much

because he literally saved my life.

Vladimir's friend

became part of an operation

smuggling heroin

from Afghanistan to Russia

on military airplanes.

Meanwhile, Vladimir joined the police,

where like Aliyah,

he was disappointed

to find extensive corruption

and very few financial opportunities

for a low-ranking officer.

Soon, he found better opportunities

on the other side of the law.

to go to the gym

and he met some

of criminal members

of the gang at that time,

and then eventually Vladimir

just basically was recruited

into the same gang.

He said that I wanted

to help my mom.

Um, she was sick.

My father was like,

you know, just drinking every day.

And he started

from the very low position,

kind of like a soldier in the gang,

but he gained a lot of respect

from others.

And eventually,

he was actually crowned

to becoming a boss of others.

And then his army friend

approached him again,

and he said,

listen, I have one business

which your criminal gang

would be happy to collaborate.

And that's how he brought

the heroin supplies

from Afghanistan to the gang.

about this,

Aliyah struggled to reconcile

the seemingly kind,

charismatic man

she was developing feelings for

with a drug trafficking gang leader

she was there to bring down.

and I looked into his eyes

and I asked him,

I said, like,

do you really know

what's happening,

you know, with these drugs?

And he's like,

like, what do you mean?

And I said, like,

did you know that

so many young people dying

because of, like,

bad quality of drugs?

He said, well,

I don't know anything about it,

but I'm not responsible

for this part

because my army friend,

he is controlling the whole thing.

Like, I'm more focusing

on businesses,

like factories

and more like government businesses.

probably protection money,

bribery,

money laundering,

and who knows what else.

why don't you just check it out

and just know it yourself?

I wanted just him to understand

that one of the businesses

which he was doing,

it was just like killing

other young,

innocent people

who were really just children.

that he actually wanted the gang

to get into more legitimate

businesses anyway,

where people maybe lived

a little longer and easier.

they had some kind of, like,

arguments with the army friend.

He felt that it's becoming too risky.

Aliyah continued delivering information

to her colleague Sasha

until he told her

they were ready to make a move

and raid some of the addresses

that Aliyah had given him.

When the operation happened,

Sasha asked Aliyah

to stay close to Vladimir,

so she made up an excuse

to go shoe shopping with him.

he noticed that he had

so many missed calls

from his army friend.

And he called him back

and he said, like,

like, what's going on?

And I heard that his army friend

who never really gave any emotions,

that moment,

I heard, like, him screaming.

It was something about, like,

where the hell were you?

I couldn't reach you.

Like, what the hell you doing?

And Vladimir was, like, upset.

But I think, like,

he was more upset

because of his partner screaming.

And he said to me,

sweetheart,

I have to deal with something right now.

Let's go to the club

a little bit later, OK?

And he dropped me home.

And I texted Sasha.

I said, like, is everything OK?

He's like, yeah, you did a great job.

I will give you all the information

when I will see you in person.

I ask her if it seemed too risky

to bust Vladimir's drug operation

while she was still undercover in the gang

and also relatively new there.

Was it sloppy at all

for them to act on the information

that's accessible in the house

while you're still

maybe in the relationship?

And B, while this is happening

for you to do something

that breaks your normal pattern

of what you do with them,

was he risking the asset at all?

The asset being you.

Me?

Yeah, the asset.

OK, I did explain this in the beginning,

but, like, you can fail

and you can be killed,

but nobody really cares

because the whole mission

is the most important.

As a human being, you're nothing.

And Sasha was just

a good professional agent,

even risking my life.

Aliyah asked him how the operation went.

which were distributing drugs.

So I wrote the report to our commander,

do you want to read it?

I'm like, whatever, I trust you.

So he's like, OK, so just behave as normal

and do everything you do,

just like in the same way,

just nothing happened.

to get closer to Vladimir,

planning specific kinds of dates

to the movies and the beach.

to that period of his life

where he was happy boy

without knowing that it will be Afghani war

or him becoming criminal gang leader.

That's how I established that trust.

sometimes Aliyah speaks

who was seducing who.

It's also interesting to think

that this was her first relationship

with someone she actually liked.

She shares many memories of this time,

including a trip to the countryside.

This is my motherland.

I was born here.

I will die here.

I belong here.

And it's very sad what's happening

right now in my country.

And I want to do right, you know.

And I looked at him,

I thought like, you know,

he speaks exactly like my dad,

but he was exactly on the opposite side

from my father.

that maybe these two worlds,

the military and the mafia,

weren't so different after all.

and he was completely lost.

He said,

so I came to the department

and I found out that

instead of these like four kilos

of the heroin,

there are only like just a few grams left.

So apparently the whole report

which Sasha provided to our commander

was changed by him.

And the whole report was given

to the upscale commander

that Sasha's group only confiscated

just a few grams of heroin.

that he'd just checked the evidence locker

and almost all the heroin was gone.

Just a small bag remained.

you know, like when your brain basically is stuck

and you just cannot accept the information.

And after a couple of minutes I said like,

do you think that he actually reported

instead of like four kilos,

just a few grams?

Because he basically took this heroin for himself.

Sasha said,

well, I just don't understand what to do.

And, you know, like,

do you think we should,

we should spy on our commander?

I said, well, if you can't do it,

do it from your side

because I'll do from my side

what I can do with Vladimir.

And just, it will be between us.

And I left with this kind of like,

understanding that it's something shady.

There's the whole big thing going on

just behind our eyes,

which we don't know.

And I couldn't obviously speak and ask Vladimir

even though I really wanted,

but I decided that that night

I really need to put him to sleep

to find out what the hell is in these papers.

as the commander of the team.

He was the one who received the first bullet.

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Original music by Makeup and Vanity Set.

Mixed and mastered by Dayton Cole.

Our theme song is Killer Shangri-La

by Psychotic Beats featuring Patti Amour.

Special thanks to Oren Rosenbaum

and the team at UTA,

Beck Media and Marketing,

Oren Siegel,

Becky Jensen,

The Nord Group,

Mirda Stedman,

Rose Baruch,

and Alex Vestberstad.

Atlanta was booming with excitement

around hosting the Centennial Olympic Games.

And then,

a deranged zealot

willing to kill for a cause

lit a fuse that would change my life

and so many others forever.

Rippling out for generations.

Listen to Flashpoint

on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts.

in a small California mountain town,

five women disappeared.

I found out what happened to all of them,

except one.

A woman known as Dia,

whose estate is worth millions of dollars.

I'm Lucy Sheriff.

Over the past four years,

I've spoken with Dia's family and friends

and I've discovered that everyone

has a different version of events.

Hear the story on Where's Dia.

Listen on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you listen to podcasts.