Will Arnett

still did like, yeah, self conscious cuz it, which in a way it is, but.

And that really is the truth. wanting to hang out with each other, cuz, i know you from thirty years ago really well. Or yeah, as much as one does you know in that situation pretty, pretty well, but i don't know the thirty years since then. really, i mean we would touch bases once or twice a year and we'd hang out once a year or something. So i'm really looking forward to that.

And i'm really looking forward to meeting your friends. you know the people you've worked with, cuz. you have been very prolific and it'll be fun to meet them. cuz, i don't know most of them. And i want to introduce you to my friends that i've worked with is prolific euphemism for horish.

Welcome to where everybody knows your name with me ted danson and woody harrelson. Sometimes. okay, here we go. as you heard earlier, not only are we going to catch up on life since cheers, but we're also introducing each other to the friends that we've made since then. like the title says, this podcast is a place to be.

no. Anyway, what is going to be popping in and out of this show when he isn't in some far off land doing a play or meditating or milking a note? and i don't mean goat, i mean oh so. sometimes it'll be both of us interviewing our guests and other times it'll be me. this week i have witty with me and we're talking to one of the funniest people alive will, arnett.

But let me set this up before we start here. what he was showing me right before will came, one of his favorite scenes from the fox sitcom arrest, the development which will stars in as the blue family's magician son job. What he was going, absolutely what. you'll see this, but absolutely crazy over the scene from season four, where job proposes to his girlfriend. And that's why you hear us talking about this at the start.

will is such a lovely guy and we were able to get into so much cool stuff is. Canadian origins, how we work from a place of mischief, which is weird to me. i work from shame, but anyway, and even his love of cheers. so, without further ado, here's a guy would be, and i both love. meet will arnett.

yes, right now it's true cube. And i want you guys watching the rest of development in here. when i was out there, yeah, and tell what you don't know. if you saw that he was watching the scene. My favorite, which is what is your scene?

i know, cuz he told me and we were once in the in the south of france, and what he. He reenacted the scene to me. that's a true story. that's true to the point. the bottom was like mad that we were coming to the table, jim, and he's like guys, come on, you can do it at the table.

we shot that up in, like santa clarita, and on the way up there. I'm pull my car to the side of the road. so i was crying so hard. true story. i was like i can't do this.

how the fuck, how can i go and do this right? and then i got there and mitch hurwitz, who created road rest of elements, a brilliant guy. I got there, and he's just such a sweetheart of a guy. He's like, yeah, you're gonna be okay, man, let's just, let's just get you know. first of all, he's also like, yeah, we gotta get out, we gotta get the day right, guy.

and then that scene ended up happening. it could have gone better.

The now i know what bono was thinking. these questions, what is it what.

The only thing that sort of occurred to me in the moment that i did. i advise in the moment, with the idea that. I was wearing her house coat and she was wearing my shirt. Right. so i thought it was kind of funny if i started saying should, should, and i started making.

Her the value of usually. it came from a bit where i used to say in the old show in the earlier episode should the guy in the forty five? should that? should the guy in the forty? forty five hundred dollars to take it from the guy who hasn't made that much in a month.

and i'm mad right now pumping myself up. I thought it'd be funny if she's wearing my shirt, that i start pumping up her shirt and also devaluing your frog that i'm wearing.

I think i think i'm a fucking all time. i am cute. i have spent the last few months. Working on this, on this thing, and i was like i gotta go back and rewatch as much tears as i can. cuz, i was always such a fan.

And i've been watching all these episodes for the last few months. well, long before i knew i was gonna be here with you guys to prepare, not to prepare, but because of something else. yeah, because for me it's the gold standard of television sitcoms, it was it, and i made my son watch the scene last night. my twelve year old is a funny kid able and i said, come watch the scene because it is the perfect meeting of. Great writing, great directing and tremendous performance.

and it was episode twenty five, season four, which is so crazy. twenty five have a great memory. go, i just saw last night.

There's so many great moments in it. you and jelly long to have this huge argument and she's gonna quit. She's had it. you're dating the woman who is the politician right and she told you she's jealous and she told you to get rid of diane. And shelly long goes and you guys are all standing there.

and shell and i've mentioned this scene to jimmy before because i think to me. You guys go, you have this huge argument she storms out of your office and you're at the bar and you come out to the bar and and shelly long goes to the top. she goes to the door and carla is standing just at one of the tables. but behind there's a little divide, this or like divide. Coat rack, door right, carla standing there, real problem.

And jelly long gives this long winded sort of farewell to the troops, but low, i've tried my best, and et cetera, et cetera. and so yet you shall never see diane chambers in cheers again. i bid you farewell. And every like what did? she walks out the door.

And then the door opens a little bit in her hand comes in. Starts reaching for her coat and coat rack and, real problem, grabs the coat rack and just pulls it a little bit. she just you. she's just said you'll never see me again, and, and, and, and, and she falls in the frame and repairment goes. look, everybody, it's done.

Adds are pretty good. that was jimmy's bits to jimmy is the best. that physical bed. so good physical bed. but but also you have to have people who are willing and able.

To do it. and so much of the time everybody in that cast just delivered. i can't believe it. i watch that and i just i marvel at it. i think, like.

That to me feels perfect, like when you hear. A song that has that perfect melody in your life and it gets you in a place of like, really really satisfies you. watching cheers really satisfies me. i go, yep, the rhythm is perfect. the thing, the delivery is perfect of the line, just all of it.

even the set was great. that was amazing. we got to do theater. we could. everyone was alive, everyone was.

On camera, in the background or in front, or whatever. incredible. and you would, even if you had to go to the back thing, you had to go to your office. you had all those pieces and it was all right there, and wouldn't? it's all lit, and it's all lit.

and you came in what season, four or at the start of season four. Which i just rewatched that episode.

you seem great. you keep winking at me now. it wasn't true? no, kidding, no.

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you guys are the top of the tippy top. so great man, so funny. And also great interviewers. you know, like you, really do great interviews, even though supposedly.

i, we, we had it when i did one this morning and i was worried that i logged on too early and i thought i actually thought i don't want to see the person. Cuz. i like the surprise. yeah, uh, and then i don't feel you know. when you don't know what is, you don't feel compelled to do anything, yeah, other than just be in the moment, have a conversation.

Whether that's good better, you know in different it's it works, and so you have moments, all of us and also need to have really good editor who calls you and says hey, last week you said bubble, are you sure you don't like it? cut that, cut that.

it feels like it's a long way to say you're better.

The advantage that we have that you guys have is that you know each other a long time, and that's why i think we both wanted to do this was cuz we knew each other so well.

i like the honesty of the integrity of the shirt. i don't have a ton of integrity, but it comes out every once in a while.

I just want to talk about cheers. i know you guys gonna be bummed out if all i want to do is talk about your. talk about you, because i want to ask you about your mom, who is supportive of you.

In toronto, even when, after she had kids, you done some stuff kind of what you would be considered to be sort of off broadway. And so when i showed an inclination for this and nothing else. Yeah, when it turned out i was good at nothing except for goofing off, i think that they were like okay, great, well, at least he's interested in this. let's, let's support him, and i gotta give it. So credit yet to my mom and my dad to cuz this was really far away from what he did.

this is about, not really. i had my cousins. my mom's cousin and her husband were quite accomplished theater actors and television and film in canada. Nancy parker and her husband joe, and so they i got to see a little bit of that, and they were always at the shakespeare festival and shop festival up and in, you know, in and around toronto. And you know very accomplished actors.

but but in terms of this. Kind of the major leagues show biz, no, you know, i moved to new york in in nineteen, ninety, when i was twenty, i didn't know a single person. And so it was scary, you know in a way. but i also was really excited about. About getting out into the world that you.

i got to college for half a year and i quit. cuz i thought. I just want to stop people going down the same route. i was like i don't want to go and do that. i don't want to be a lawyer, i don't want to be an investment banker.

i don't want, and a lot of people i knew had. Have gone to do that and, by the way, that's what they enjoy. that's great. Remember my buddy, jimmy valley? i don't know if you know, jimmy, i'm quote him all the time.

he's actually.

Jimmy said it always circles back to conan. but go ahead. yeah, he's everywhere, he's watching us through these cameras. yeah. He said to me.

he said, you know, there's a lot of people say you know that you got nothing left to lose if you, if you come from nothing and you you try out showbiz and he's like i think it's the opposite. you might as well. he's like you.

Again, i'm not popping myself up, but he was like you had more of a path and the thing that you could have gone down and you decided to take. Take a leap and do it. try to do this, and i think that's probably a lot scarier.

Oh, no, please, yeah, i was just a. you know, i was a pain in the ass, kid. i was a smart ass and i was, you know, smoking butts and and drinking beers and doing whatever, and they didn't like that. Yeah, yeah. Is canada man.

right now anything kind of goes in, and so i left there and i'm yeah, i moved back to toronto and i ended up getting into theater. A little bit in toronto and kind of understanding that there's a whole world out there. that was the beginning. and yeah, you never know, i told the story million times. i got cancer, i got fired off, i did a pilot at cbs in two thousand two.

Twelve years after moving to new york, twelve years. and i don't, if you pilots before that i don't like four, five up right up to that point. I'm. And pilots and indie films in new york that were kind of didn't really go anywhere. and but just you know, grinding it out, grinding it out, broke, broke, broke, broke, broke, i get this pilot and it gets picked up, the series and i be.

Call me so, you're not getting picked up, you're not going to series with it. Yeah, they're firing you and then that role doesn't exist anymore and have a good one. and i was. i was so bummed out. And that was the summer of two thousand two and amy been on snl.

that was just the tail end of her first year. You guys were together, we were together in new york and so i was like you know what, screw it. so i started and it's starting to do this plane. i was in rehearsal for this play with the new group. And i just thought you know what i'm.

just i'm done. i'm never gonna do tv again. boy, they're gonna be really bummed that i'm not doing tv, world gonna be so upset. And i and i got a call from the woman who is the same casting director from the pilot. she read me a letter when i got fired, saying i think they made a mistake.

I deborah ski i don't know if anybody remembers her amazing casting director and tv out here in l.

a. It's really sweet lady and she wrote me this really nice handwritten notes and i think that you know, don't take it too hard, i think you're a great. Kid and bubble, or guy or whatever. In six months later she called my manager and said i'm casting this show and i think that will be great for me. so you know he's gonna do this play and i think that he doesn't.

He's still so sort of, but hurt. from last year, he, i've been a pilot that almost when i've been on shows that are canceled after two episodes, i've been like you know, it's like you were the high and low just nonstop, for years, for years. And i was like i can't take it again. man, i just, you know, your nervous system gets a point you just feel like. Never gonna happen.

and she said, please just have a read this thing. And i told the producers you'd be great and it was arrested. development, wow, and if i had it been fired. Going to your point, if i had been fired that year before i would have been available to that show ended up being on the air for a few years. i wanted to be able to be available for the thing i was destined.

Okay, yeah, i remember, i took the subway up to read and. I came home. that was like on a, let's say, like on a wednesday, by thursday or friday. they called and said. Who is the same studio?

the show that i've been canceled before? not same network, that was cbs, but the same studio is twentieth. So i didn't know the people and i did. it was the third year in a row. i, i, i would was up for something at twentieth and they called me, said.

Yeah, they want to bring you in the way, to come to california and read for the studio at least and and probably test for the network. And for people who don't know you, what you do is, you guys know you sign a contract before you go in for your final network test. Five year contract so that if they like what you did, you can't hold them up. you can't hold them up, they can't go. we want you for the job.

you go great. well, now i want a million dollars, an episode like no. You sign for whatever it is. you negotiate before your final thing, which really messes with you, when you're kind of a broke young actor because that. You sign a contract and you see the dollar man, you're broken like that.

money is so close to me now, maybe gonna get out of this apartment so soon, you know. and so i will fly to la. and, and i remember i read it was the russo brothers who've gone on to make all the great right. Avengers movies and stuff. and who's the russo's.

And another actor, and there are a couple other actors reading for the part at that point and then eventually, when we went to network the next couple days later on the monday, it was me, and i've told this before, and i, a guy who i respect a lot and i think is amazing rain wilson. And alan rock from from succession. right is a session. i haven't watched that, but i know that he plays the brother on that. Great, yeah, is great.

so it's the three of us reading for that, for that part of job arrested, miserable cold. Another one of those things. help me keep out of my head, cuz i was just so miserable. yeah, i couldn't. how long do you have to wait to find out?

i went in, red allen went in after me, i got into like. Wash water, my face, i was feeling kind of terrible. And i, as i came out, mitch came out and i told again. i told this before and i don't mean to belabor it, or you know, cuz, i mean he doesn't care, i'm sure, but rain was still waiting and mitch harris came out. he goes, it's you got it.

Who are you to you? to me? and i said cool, rain is still on in, yet he's right there, the other guy, i don't know what time. yeah, i knew him, cuz, he done six feet under and i thought it was cool, but anyway,

just meet and you have this thing. you're like we're speaking the same.

like it. Some. i don't coke or something, but probably something bad, fast food container. you're like drinking out of it you just.

No, i don't remember the cigarette, but i. but you're just so cool and you know. And the ease with which you could just pick up the script and just be fucking great, and i was in all of you, i still am.

it's funny. you mentioned ted's ease. cuz i watch. I watch not just the blocking in cheers, but i watch the body language and everybody, because and every character is so well defined. On cheers.

that's so beautiful, but i was really really well written. Ted, you had so many different ways. first of all, you're a tall man and you're taller than everybody else in the cast, and. You often had to be at the bar or against the bar. so you had different ways of leaning and getting low.

so you're at the same angle. so you'd lean. Your ease, with which you you popped open the soda water was just phenomenal. you do it in ways that i just watch them work. you mean, yeah, he's just a start talking about you, and then you lean, and then you lean against the thing.

but you know what made that.

you really didn't make it your home.

as a kid come baseball time, it was no, no, no, no, we had had last time you have.

Here's the font he's like. now, what can i get you? what are you doing over here? let me get you a chair like jesus. i want to meet the father.

He's the sweetest guy, he's the sweetest man i know. i think. Yeah, check out, there's so many things about that. i can't believe a to that you did move like an athlete. so well, jimmy burrows help me really by saying and it got me a lot of close ups to.

i'm sorry, i interrupted. i mean he's a real lady. yeah, no, he had the bd for sure on that show.

I don't know. big snuggle energy. hey, the lady is working.

basically, is that some strange reason? i got a lot of shame and it serves me well as far as energizing me. i'm kind of being funny, but not completely. there's something to that. where do you work from?

do you know what i mean? yeah, i think i work from the same place that got me kicked out of boarding school.

i like it, even comedically. i like being in a situation. That you're not supposed to say something and seeing how far you can, i can't. that's why i used to love being on talk shows. i used to love going on.

On conan all the time. you are a master on letterman. it was full day, but it was fun because i know what that line is and what is acceptable. and what can you infer before standards and practices. Cut your bed, i got it.

now i want to get into it. what was it like being on the number one sitcom in the world back in the eighties where there was no social media. There is no tmc bullshit? was it just the fucking best? it was really fun.

it was. yeah, it was right. yeah. Yeah, it really it. yeah, it was rock.

you're allowed to say it, you're. this is a safe space. yeah, well, he was quite.

Cheers, like one of the great companies of all. time and again, in a time where there were, people work out to pull you down. now the game is. Let's put people up there and let's see, let's get the snipers out and see you can take the best shot at it, right? wasn't like that back then, right.

Everyone was so, whatever that, if someone was an asshole for a week. They couldn't last writing an asshole because everyone would turn a go, hey, knock it off. so. We didn't. well, i guess we did get high and mighty didn't wait a little bit.

well, you never did that i saw.

Hey man, i love you, i think that you're the greatest like that. that's amazing. it's amazing, it was really good, but you're right. i was think about there. certain sort of.

Comedians are comedic actors. i think about who people go, what happened to that guy. And i always think that the moment that you think that you've got it all figured out is the moment you've lost it. and i always think that to myself you never, you've never got it, you're never gonna have to. there is no, it's a constantly right.

the world and everything is constantly changing and you gotta stay open. And and keep looking for new ways to. i think about this, about what you've done all the time. both you guys have gone from. There from cheers.

you've had no fewer than five hit television shows since then. that i can think of. yet. Becker, good place, you have images, damages. i forgot about damages, the one with the board to death, or did i love that with jack?

and yeah. This is great, parker. no, but it's true. and you made all those movies. you know it, all those curb episodes not heard, made tons of movies in between.

what do you made? a million movies and limited series and. Comedies and dramas, and i get the sense that both you guys don't feel like you got it figured out. so maybe you had a moment where you thought you're a big shot, but i don't buy it.

let me let's hear praise you. oh yeah, before you eat the price, can i ask you guys a question yeah, do you ever have that thing when you're like in a,

yes. And you sit there and you'd reach around and go fuck twelve hundred. really, i'm the twelve hundred.

this person can barely speak. I own this room. i can kill it. no, you do have those things. i mean i've gone through very again.

i think that it's one of the benefits of getting older that that i just put less value on shit like that and. And there was a time coming off a rest of development, if i'm being totally honest, where i thought that i was gonna have, where i had a lot of opportunity and i felt like i squandered it, which reminds me i got a fire manager today and.

I've had those moments where i was like i could have had this or i could have had that, and i did it and i always remind myself that i'm on my path. the universe is always taking care of me. Yeah, so whatever that's gonna be, and i don't know what is coming for me, but it's fucking great. And it is right around the corner, and you know, i know that, cause it always has been. Just got a bank on that.

it's the only thing. that's the kind of the only faith i really have. you, you and jack shepard to me are.

and but what it gives you? besides your natural, brilliant, funny, fast mind, you also have a humility and a curiosity about you. that's really cool, but deep down a quitter.

Yeah, i've talked about my sobriety and i made this show flake to sort of about it and about my talk to openly, about. Going back out again and all that kind of stuff in it. life is complicated. it's not a straight line. i'm learning as i go.

I'm half of the bag. now you know me so good. i think he's drinking. i'm so sorry i brought it up. i'm so sorry.

no wonder you felt so uncomfortable when he brought up the sobriety.

Maybe sometimes my confidence is unwarranted. You know, i like undeserved, but at the same time i do really just think about like. You know, it's a stupid thing of like. we're all just people, and so those people that we sort of put on the thing, we do this and you go to a social situation. I guarantee you they're.

they're thinking about the number ranking system, worse than you are.

i just went home home and you literally thought i wasn't gonna come to lunch, didn't think you were coming when you came in. i'm like he actually did this the first time this is ever.

she was married to malcolm mcdowell. they had their two kids, charlie and lily. and yeah, we've been in. charlie is with the lily.

you're from california right.

let me ask you this have you been me, this is true, yeah, have you googled yourself recently? no, and i have not, and that came up recently and somebody i have before. of course. I've looked at my wikipedia. we talk about this because the row we always talk about throws wikipedia and.

Kimmel has changed both the row and krasinski's wikipedia before. You can just go on and change it. yeah, i think so. it'll last for like an hour. i think you did it to the row.

Forget what he did. i think he said that he was a crier when he ejaculated.

I'm just using medical terms now, just so i won't get in trouble.

It lasted like a couple hours or something long enough. what are you here now.

in hawaii a lot these days you still doing that. i'm texas and hawaii, texas and hawaii. now you say i have a place like you were born and raised in texas. you're not what. I was born in texas.

i got it because i'm not ready for you, listen, my character was from indiana. sure, i wasn't waiting. i did go to college hand over the harvard. seriously, where do you grow up. I grew up in texas and ohio.

where in texas. Midland, i was born and grew up in houston starting. i didn't know that. yeah, no, it's fine, it doesn't matter. everybody thinks i'm from indiana or something.

that's what was the town that you're free? was it hand over the town that what is from and cheers,

i love that so fucking great, i love that. And then i still love the episode where you and coach go back to college and he and a coach. Oh, when i went, yeah, yeah, whoa, when those guys memorized.

Albania? yeah, yeah, border on the adriatic. your land is mostly mountainous and your chief export is chrome. i know that from the eighties. i remember.

that's amazing. that's fucked up, did you guys? so there must have been a lot of years where you didn't see each other. were there, or would you always stay? we'd like see each other once a year, twice a year, or you know, at least every other year, you know like.

i remember when. The office ended he. it was really a tough time for him because they were so they done it for eight years. Yeah, whatever, and i remember watching him go through that in that way. I've been like trying to howdy.

you're with these people all the time in a very pressure packed situation. You know, you've got it. everything you do is being consumed by everybody, be watched by everybody. That bonds you and it's great, and it's very emotional, and it's over, like you said, and then you like all right, see you later.

i can't even tell you guys, i mean really, apart from having to drive east.

Hey, driving, but i did drive here in a brand new gmc, sierra. Oh, sorry, i just have to mention that we have to keep that. yeah. A great vehicle. it's a tremendous vehicle.

i like that. they have electric. the new gmc electric is coming out this year, but that's not what you're driving now, yet you're pushing out some fumes. yeah, well, i'm just here, i'm just like i'm.

what is your yearly? i mean, what are you pulling down? just curious, my yearly income? well, yeah, i mean.

i are right before the end of the year, cuz i, you don't make money the first year. that's what they told. yeah, i don't know if that's, did you make money the first year? yeah, moment one.

you don't want to say anything negative about how. come they're saying wrap it up now, it's okay. you know, it's okay. the conan people.

oh no, he's mean. he's mean he's rough. rough, i do. it is. Yeah, you're a pin, a lot of shit.

yeah, man, i got my fingers and listen everybody, how do you do the pitch? what do you do? you go in there and you say you have to do this because and you get one line, i walk and i just go there and look at these. exactly, i go, look, here's the deal. Everybody's gonna what to become this one, okay.

And that's their language, and they're like okay, we're in, we're in. we like the guys who suggested that we're gonna what are big.

I know, you know it's been. yeah, it's been fun kind of doing other stuff and i do this lego stuff and we're doing, we're producing all the murderville which i really love, that you improvise it. yeah, it's great murderville based on this english format, murderville. So we had a lot of luck and bring that over, the great tom davis. let us kind of bring it over here and try our hand at doing a version of it.

what. It is is is a we bring a guest on and they have no idea what's gonna happen. and i play this cop terry seattle, try to solve a murder. Every episode is crazy. we had conan came and did it.

we had. We had so many awesome people marshall lynch, my buddy marshall and what is their job? is their job to be straight and try to figure it out? yeah, yeah, we go from set to set. we have it all pre read, we have all the sets built on one stage.

And we just take them through and they have no idea what's gonna happen. and you mean you shoot it all in one, we go. well, the first take is the most important, because there that's the. yeah, we'll do a second take, sometimes through exits and entrances and stuff like that. really is that first, take it getting their first reaction.

you find a clue, we walk in and we see a body that's been like impaled or whatever you like. what do you think having? what should we do? and i got? i don't know.

and you know crazy shit happens if you keep them giggling, laughing. yeah, oh yeah, yeah, people break up all the time. it's a crazy show.

right on paper, i'm a loser in the justice bones of it. on paper, the architecture of it, but then boom, you know, you just keep succeeding. you can't kill a weed. that's what i was attributed to,

you can tell when the people are the. Like. i said before, when they're like over, speak in the same language and least spiritually or not, to sound to kind of out there. but i've always got that from you guys and i've always admired you guys and really looked up to you guys as much older gentleman.

But i put it all jokes aside, of truly admired what both of you guys have done, for real for a guy like me, super inspirational and aspirational to, so thank you.

just you just fill the screen, you light it up, the camera loves you, and you're just always fucking crushing it. and uh so, thank you, and thank you for the funniest thing i've ever seen on television. to this day i still go crazy for that. and, by the way, anytime you want to come to my dispensary, the woods 8271 santa monica boulevard you're welcome. i'd love to come by goes well with sobriety.

yeah, it's really good. i'm gonna bring my sponsor. you just sit there and bring your sponsor. you don't have to cbd, right. you got cbd, by the way, if you get hot box, that's not.

let me ask you are you a hugger.

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